Icing and Turbulence layers missing

The last couple of days I have noticed that turbulence and icing are not working on the map unless you hit the time-lapse button. But otherwise, they may flash on and off or not at all.

On an updated Mac/X-Plane with the latest version of Navigraph.

Hello! Welcome back.

Could you upload a recording of this phenomenon? I am not able to reproduce it.

Kind Regards,
Malte

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I am not seeing any turbulence displayed on the map either, even when using the time lapse, it has completely disappeared for me recently.

Hello again! We have identified the issue.

The technical explanation is that the NOAA GFS data that is published to the AWS Open Data Registry suddenly no longer includes WAFS Hazard Data files. At the moment, we don’t know why they are gone but there surely is a good reason!

At the moment, there is no easy way around this issue. We will continue to investigate possible solutions after the weekend! Apologies for the inconvenience in the meantime.

Kind Regards,
Malte

As a short update (also mentioned in this thread), it seems like NOAA has decided to stop distributing this data openly. Unfortunately, this means that we will have to find an alternative source with the same quality, which is proving to be a challenge. We will try to make this happen as soon as possible, but it could take time! You can read the official message from NOAA here.

We realize that these are some of the most useful weather layers in our collection, so we apologize for the inconvenience that this causes in the meantime.

Kind Regards,
Malte

Tip: I would recommend that Navigraph enquire with the Flightaware team (www.flightaware.com) in Houston, TX, USA. They are utilising the same data if I am not mistaken in their application - they are also showing turbulence data in their application with current, +6 hrs, +12 hrs, +18 hrs. etc. prediction. Perhaps they know a work-around or maybe even you can get the data through Flightaware if they are willing to do this?

We’ve looked around - many others are using less detailed data and then interpolating between data points to make it seem like they have more data than they have.

We are in contact with SADIS and hope to be provided with an official source in the coming weeks!
Thank you for the idea either way. If for some reason our main plan does not work out, we’ll consider reaching out to them (even if the chances of getting a useful answer are quite low).

Actually, according to our contacts at NOAA & SADIS, WIFS and SADIS will be the only two official sources of this data going forward, with SADIS being the main source.

This was an ICAO mandate that they (NOAA) had to comply with, and just like us they are currently adjusting to the new conditions. SADIS will be ready for integration first, so that’s why we are aiming to work with them!

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Read the SADIS website, sounds promising!!! Hope you can reinstate the data in your application rather sooner than later! Keeping my fingers crossed!

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Excellent news! Thank you for supporting this useful feature