hi everybody,
after the last update of navigraph fms data and xp12 i miss a runway at lgsa:
the default 737, shows everything: 11, 11R and 11L (there are only 2, but for some reason it shows 3). but all the paid airplanes, like toliss 32x, 340, inisimulations a3xx etc show only 2: 11 and 11R.
that makes them lose the SID procedures of 11L. i opened the lgsa.txt file inside the navdata set and it has only procedures for 11L (and 29R). if it is a navigraph problem, can it be fixed in the next update pls? unfortunately i dont know how to download the previous set (2405) to check if the lgsa.txt file was correct. maybe the problem was from xp12 update (i did both at the same time)
thank you
Hi,
The AIRAC datasets for XPlane doesn’t contain any airport information, so also no runways. This is part of the XPlane default scenery. When an addon uses an own dataset for the navdata you see (as you have discovered) that we have the new runways/Ids.
So, please report this to XPlane Gateway … We can’t update it, this is a XPlane limitation.
Cheers
Richard
Actual airport currently has only 1 runway designated 11L/29R, and of course the official scenery (which contains runway information) only has 11/29 and 11R/29L 
(that was probably a valid configuration at some point)
https://gateway.x-plane.com/airports/LGSA/show
ToLiSS will pick up the runways from third-party custom scenery, but I cannot seem to find one with the current runway configuration; you might need to try your luck with WorldEditor (WED) - X-Plane Developer and edit runway identifiers yourself.
Regards,
Tim
hi tim, but when i remove the navigraph data set and i go back to the default xp12 navdata, then everything works as it should. i use the default lgsa airport from the gateway, latest version.
do you know if i can download an older navdata set from navigraph? if yes, how ?
thanks
Yes, because the default dataset (which is also from us) has still the old runways included therefore it’s working.
So, when you want to use the old/outdated runways you must switch back to the default/old dataset.
Cheers
Richard
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Hi,
[Edited at 15h20 loc time with more informations]
I’m the author of LGSA in X-Plane 12.
LGSA was an official two runways airport back in the days, with a 11/29 (north runway) and a 11R/29L (south runway).
Actually at the beginning, I don’t exclude the possibility that it was a 3 runway airports : 11L/29R (now the North TWY), 11/29 (now the current runway) at the center, and 11R/29L (now the South taxiway) but I wasn’t able to find sources over the Internet.
At some point (around 2000 ?), they switched to 11/29 only,
removing the south runway the qualifier of runway, and having it from then on qualified as South taxiway, marked and lighted as a runway.
The northern runway was renamed 11L/29R in may 2024.
They plan more evolutions at this airports, like making the south taxiway an official runway again after many years !
On the 8th of August 2024, the south taxiway will be renamed 11R/29L !
According to greek AIP for august 2024 :
CHANGES:
-RWY 11/29 renamed 11L/29R
-TWY South renamed to RWY
11R/29L
-RWY11R/29L used as RWY only by
Hellenic Air Force (HAF) in
emergency situations
-RWY 11L/29R TDZ depicted.
I made a general revision in February 2024 of this airport, which is still is pending for integration in X-Plane (if the Gateway is up to date in it’s informations). But sadly it didn’t carried the new name at that time. I’ll push an update to the X-Plane Gateway with the new name 11L/29R. In the future, that will solve the procedure access from the navdata. https://gateway.x-plane.com/airports/LGSA/show
As you can see from the picture below, the ToLiSS Airbus has now the R11L procedures with my update, done today, 25th of July 2024.
Best regards.
Thank you very much for this valueable information. Much appreciated!!
I assume, that you changes will included in one of the next XP12 updates.
Cheers
Richard
PS: I have moved/merged your answer into the corresponding posting.