I noticed:
If a flight plan is created on the opening MSFS screen it is not automatically loaded when starting Navigraph’s in game panel. Some other (random ?) plan is loaded instead.
Hello Vaughan! Welcome to the forum.
Are you getting the prompt to load the flight plan inside the panel? Or are you loading it through the New Flight > From simulator menu option? If you don’t do any of this, Navigraph Charts will load the route that was last loaded, it will not default to the route in the simulator.
Kind Regards,
Malte
Malte,
Like I mentioned it was an initial observation. I edited this post ans added a couple screenshots.
If a flight plan is created on the opening MSFS (World globe, select aircraft, select departure, select arrival, create a flight plan) then Fly.
The flight starts with the aircraft and flight plan.
Start Navigraph panel. The flight plan is not loaded automatically into Navigraph panel.
Vaughan
Hello again!
No that is correct. It is not supposed to. It is weird however that you don’t receive any notification asking if you want to load the flightplan in the panel. What happens if you open the menu that I mentioned in my previous post? Is the button available or grayed out?
Kind Regards,
Malte
Hi Malte,
“Are you getting the prompt to load the flight plan inside the panel? “
No.
I get NG Charts opening screen with the wrong flight plan shown on the map.
I did a screenshot.
“Or are you loading it through the New Flight > From simulator menu option? “
No, I created the plan on the MSFS World Map Opening screen.
Then select Fly to start the flight.
“No that is correct. It is not supposed to.
“If you don’t do any of this,
Navigraph Charts will load the route that was last loaded,
it will not default to the route in the simulator.”
I see what you mean.
But my thought is:
MSFS needs to give you a hook so Navigraph can load the current flight as is in the sim (whatever the sim is currently using).
“It is weird however that you don’t receive any notification asking if you want to load the flightplan in the panel. “
No notification.
See my previous screenshots.
“What happens if you open the menu that I mentioned in my previous post?
Is the button available or grayed out?”
In my first tests I was not loading a flight / flight plan from the initial MSFS start up screens.
I was creating a plan to be used immediately.
However, I later saved a flight / flight plan from the MSFS startup screen and it loaded / Flew ok in the sim.
Then I exited MSFS.
On my next PC reboot
Started MSFS
Loaded the saved flight / flight plan and Fly.
The sim loaded with the flight and flight plan ok
I started NG Charts and the same old flight plan was on the NG Charts map.
Also:
I see Flights in the Navigraph Map view.
If I click on it I get High enroute, Low enroute, World Map
If I select Low Enroute I get the same wrong flight plan on the NG Map
I did a screenshot.
In my initial tests the Navigraph panel has always loaded the same flight plan as in my screenshot.
Suggest:
MSFS needs to give Navigraph a hook so Navigraph can load the current flight as is in the sim (whatever the sim is currently using).
Vaughan
Below is a screenshot of the prompt that I am looking for. If you are not seeing this prompt, there are two possible scenarios:
- The panel is out of date and is not aware of the flightplan
- The Charts app has found the flightplan to be invalid, and thus not loadable.
The troubleshooting of this issue would begin by seeing if the flightplan has, in fact, been rejected. You can find out by opening the New flight menu, as indicated by the below screenshot.
This will prompt you with a few different import options, the last of which should be labeled “From simulator”. If this button is greyed out and non-clickable, it means that the flightplan was rejected/invalid.
Yes, it will always show the last flightplan. Unless you interact with it by loading another flightplan, it will always show the same route on startup.
In order to load a new one, you have to click the “New flight” button from the previous screenshots and select any of the options to create a flightplan.
We have found ways of doing this, and the latest panel code should be able to accomplish what you are looking for. We just don’t do it automatically on startup to respect the user’s choice. Instead, we kindly prompt the user when opening the panel, if a valid flightplan is found.
If it is not working, i.e. if no prompt shows up and the “From simulator” button is greyed out despite you having entered a correct* flightplan, please advise and we’ll troubleshoot the issue together.
* A correct flightplan is one that contains at least an origin airport and a destination airport.
Hope this helps to explain any misunderstandings, and as mentioned please advise if something is not working as intended!
Kind Regards,
Malte
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Malte,
We have found ways of doing this, and the latest panel code should be able to accomplish what you are looking for. We just don’t do it automatically on startup to respect the user’s choice. Instead, we kindly prompt the user when opening the panel, if a valid flightplan is found.
Navigraph is not prompting to load a flight plan as shown in my screenshot. Instead I get (as I previously mentioned) Hi /Lo altitude choices.
“We just don’t do it automatically on startup to respect the user’s choice.”
I have no idea what “respect user’s choice” means.
My choice would be to have Navigraph load the current flight as is in the sim (whatever the sim is currently using) for the current flight.
Please make the panel slightly wider so that you can click on the airplane icon (labeled “Flights”), not the map selector. The airplane icon, when pressed, will open a menu such as the one in the attachment below.
From there, you can select “New flight”. The screen that then shows should give you the option to load the flightplan from the simulator. If it does not, i.e. if the button labeled “From simulator” is not clickable, something is wrong with your flightplan and I’ll help you with the investigation.
The user’s choice, in this case, refers to the user being able to freely chose what flightplan should be loaded. We will not replace the active flight plan automatically without asking, but rather make it possible to do this in a quick way using the prompt that is shown in the first screenshot in my previous post.
Kind Regards,
Malte
Malte,
Video for Navigraph forum review of their MSFS In-Game Panel
Vaughan
Hello again Vaughan! Thank you for the detailed video!
Regarding what you say at and around 3:14, the flightplan you see there has been saved by you at some point, perhaps not in the panel but in your account. If you select the airplane icon, you will be treated with a screen such as this one:
What you see here is a list of flightplans that have been created using Navigraph Charts, either in the panel, the desktop application or the web application. You should be able to find the one that got loaded in this list (KORD > KPHX). If you do not load another flightplan or press the “Unload” button shown in the top right of the screenshot, the same flightplan will be loaded the next time you use the application.
Pressing unload will leave you with a “blank canvas”, and in order to create a new flightplan you need to press the “New Flight” button shown in the top left.
Now, regarding the fact that you now suddenly got the prompt despite not getting it any of the other times, and the fact that it only managed to load the origin and destination airport, leads me to believe that you were affected by a bug that should now be fixed. I tried loading exactly the your scenario (KLAX → KSEA, no runway/departure/arrival/approach selected) and this is was the result.
Hope it works better now and if not, please advise and we’ll see to it! Also, thank you again for the detailed video, it helped my understanding of your scenario.
Kind Regards,
Malte