Help please- Proper use with Pilot2ATC

I have for a long time used these two products together, but I find I have to delete the SIDs and STARs before I feed it into P2ATC or I end up with double waypoints and a general mess. My workflow looks like this:
1- Generate a plan in Simbrief (by Navigraph) :wink:
2- Import that plan into Navigraph
3- Delete the SIDs and STARs, and export the plan to a file.
4- Re-import that plan so that my Navigraph plane includes them.
5- Import the SID and STAR free version of the plan into P2A, and use it normally from there.

By doing it that way, I avoid all the double waypoints, but then P2A just completely takes over both SID and STAR selection, as well as the requested runway, and I find that more often than not, it’s not at all what was in my original plan.

I figure there has to be a better way, and that I’m just doing it the “dumb way” without knowing any better.

Can anyone help me out with this conundrum?

Kev

Hi,

Unfortunately I’ve never used Pilot2ATC, so I can’t really help from that side of things. I think they have a support forum in the Avsim forums, maybe try asking this question over there? A few SimBrief users are probably on there and might be able to share how they do it.

The only thing I can add is that SimBrief also has a way to directly export a .pln (I think that’s what Pilot2ATC uses?) without the SID/STAR, you can find it in the list under “FSX/P3D (No SID/STAR)”. Not sure if this is helpful or not, maybe it can save you a step and speed up your process slightly since you wouldn’t need to import into Navigraph, modify, export, then re-import.

You could also use the SimBrief Downloader program to automatically export the “FSX/P3D (No SID/STAR)” format to the Pilot2ATC plans folder (if such a thing exists) to save having to manually download it.

Best regards,