Southwest (SWA) OFP ETOPS

Hello. With the release of the PMDG 737, I’m wondering if the Southwest Airlines OFP might get updated in the future to include ETOPS flight planning? Currently it seems I can check the box for ETOPS planning but I get no results on the OFP. I assume it’s just not enabled?

Thanks for all you do.

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I agree please add this to simbrief.

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Hello, I have put your request in. Ensure that you select the airport in green and ETOPS in the dropdown.

just the EEP EXP and ETP Cords would be great to have.

100% agree. If we could just get the OFP to give the EEP, EXP and ETP, I would be happy. I don’t need the extra fuel info. With MSFS I don’t need all the data for diversions and contingencies.

Hello, we are working on SWA release ETOPS.

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Hi all,

I’ve added initial ETOPS support to the SWA layout. Not 100% sure if the location of the ETOPS sections is correct though, I might update the layout further in a few days if we manage to get some more data.

Best regards,

They also add in the fuel ladder the fuel required for the APU (as they have to run the APU in ETOPS), and any fuel required for the ETOPS fuel scenario, even if that fuel amount is zero, its still identified as such in their fuel ladder for all ETOPS ops.

Thanks! Will try to add this over the weekend.

Best regards,

Put the highest APU fuel in this area, the 560 lbs for the DECOMP 1 ENG into the fuel ladder and you’re there

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Hello SimBrief team!

I am the Director of Dispatch at Southwest Virtual Airlines (swavirtual.com)

Any chance we can get these issues shown in the screenshots resolved?

If you need more clarification or have any questions regarding this matter please let me know.

EDIT: To be clear, these corrections would apply to ALL SWA OFPs at SimBrief and NOT just the ETOPS OFP.

Hi, sure. I’ve updated the layout, let me know if it’s better now.

Best regards,

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Perfect. Thank you very much!!

Also, one last thing I noticed, when you intentionally make a separation line in the remarks, it does not honor that when it generates the dispatch release OFP in SimBrief.

For example, if I want the dispatch release remarks to read like this:

AC EQUIP - ELTS
GPS RECEIVERS SA ON - REFER TO ADS-B PREFLIGHT PREDICTION CHECK
FANS CPDLC ENROUTE

ADDITIONAL FUEL FOR ATC/AIRPORT ARRIVAL DEMAND

KDAL 5G AMOC - NORMAL OPS
KHOU 5G AMOC - NORMAL OPS


On the SimBrief generated Dispatch Release OFP However, it will show incorrectly as this:

AC EQUIP - ELTS
GPS RECEIVERS SA ON - REFER TO ADS-B PREFLIGHT PREDICTION CHECK
FANS CPDLC ENROUTE
ADDITIONAL FUEL FOR ATC/AIRPORT ARRIVAL DEMAND
KDAL 5G AMOC - NORMAL OPS
KHOU 5G AMOC - NORMAL OPS


Notice how the separation lines are taken away and it makes the remarks more difficult to read because the intentional separation lines are deleted from the the remarks section incorrectly.

Is there a way we could get this resolved?

Thank you so much!

Southwest Virtual Airlines
NOC Dispatch Team

Hi again,

This might take a little while longer to fix. For now, I recommend typing a period on each separation line. This will at least prevent the line from being trimmed. Not perfect, but it’s at least somewhat of a workaround.

Best regards,

Actually scratch that, I’ve updated it now to support separation lines.

Best regards,

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Derek,

You are the absolute best!! Thank you so much sir!! You are a true gift to the flight sim community!

Lastly, is there a chance we can implement a FLAG specific OFP format for SWA flights? We currently only have normal SWA OFP format (Domestic Flights) and SWA ETOPS OFP format.

For all FLAG flights, the fuel requirement is different and shows differently in the fuel breakdown section of the release. For normal (domestic) SWA OFP format, the federally regulated reserve fuel shows as “FAR RESERVE”. However, for all flights operated under Part 121 FLAG at SWA (including ETOPS flights), the federally regulated reserve fuel on the release shows as “30 FAR”. "30 FAR is always coupled with “10 PCT” above “30 FAR”. If there is “30 FAR” on the release (OFP), then there is always “10 PCT” as well on the release (OFP). If there is “FAR RESERVE” on the release, then there is NO “10 PCT” on the release (OFP).

The reason for why "30 FAR and “10 PCT” must be included on the dispatch release (OFP) for any FLAG flight can be found in the following Federal Aviation Regulation:
FAR 121.645 - FLAG fuel requirements

Note: The “10PCT” fuel is always calculated as 10% of the “ENROUTE BURN”'s total time in MINUTES. so say hypothetically, the “ENROUTE BURN” calculated time on the Dispatch Release (OFP) was 1 hour and 20 minutes, the 10PCT fuel on the dispatch release would be 8minutes of “ENROUTE BURN” calculated fuel (why “8” is the correct answer: 60+20=80. 80 x .10 = 8). But that 8 minutes would show on the “10PCT” line in the fuel breakdown section rather than just added to the “ENROUTE BURN” calculated fuel. This way we show clear and definitive compliance with FAR 121.645.

I will attach a couple images of SWA FLAG dispatch release (OFP) and SWA NORMAL-Domestic dispatch release (OFP) so you can see the key differences in the fuel breakdown section.

The rest of the information on the Dispatch Release (OFP) remains the same and nothing else changes when it comes to an SWA FLAG Dispatch Release (OFP) or an SWA ETOPS Dispatch Release (OFP).
The current SWA NORMAL-Domestic OFP format is PERFECT as is currently and does not need to be altered.

That being said, is there any chance we could get a new “SWA FLAG” OFP format added so that we can Dispatch SWA FLAG flights legally and correctly? As well, can we change, in the fuel breakdown section of the SWA ETOPS dispatch release (OFP), “FAR RESERVE” to instead read “30FAR” and as well include “10PCT” above the “30FAR” with the correct calculation so we are in compliance with FAR 121.645?

Here is are some real-world example images.

SWA FLAG Dispatch Release Fuel shown below:
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SWA NORMAL-Domestic Dispatch Release Fuel shown below:

I really appreciate everything you do for us in the community, Derek!

Southwest Virtual Airlines
NOC Dispatch Team
Standards Division

I’ve updated SimBrief to support FAA Flag reserves, and updated the SWA layout accordingly.

There are now 3 new choices in the Reserve Fuel option: FAA (Auto), FAA (Domestic), and FAA (Flag). Auto will choose between Domestic and Flag reserves depending on the departure/arrival airports.

There is no need to add a separate SWA layout for Flag flights, simply choose the appropriate Reserve Fuel option and the layout will be adjusted accordingly.

Let me know if it works properly!

Best regards,

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Derek,

I just reviewed the changes and they are all immaculate. Thank you very much sir!

One quick thing though, I noticed that SimBrief automatically adds “FLAG OPERATION” dispatch remark to any flight if either the destination or the origination is located outside of the Contiguous United States of America (CONUS-Lower 48).

Southwest Airlines has Operation Specification (OpSpec) A012 which allows them to dispatch under domestic IFR rules to airports no more than 950NM from the Contiguous (Lower 48) United States shoreline.

For this reason, is there a chance we can make the system only add that “FLAG OPERATION” dispatch remark if it detects that the user selected (FAA FLAG) reserve in the selections dropdown?

Thank you so much sir for all you do!

Southwest Virtual Airlines
NOC Dispatch Team
Standards Division

Sure, I’ve changed it so that it won’t include the Flag remark if FAA (Domestic) is chosen in the reserve option. FAA (Auto) will still show it if the flight meets Flag criteria, as will FAA (Flag) obviously.

Best regards,

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Just for easier visual referencing, here are 2 screenshots showing the key differences between the SimBrief SWA OFP layout and the real world SWA OFP layout.

If we could get these things corrected in the SimBrief layout it would be IMMENSELY appreciated.

NOTE: I didn’t have enough room on the first image to explain the “STARRED items” on the first image… The “Starred Items” on the first image indicate fuel that can not be changed in SimBrief at the current moment but we need to be able to change/manipulate them when preflight planning… ESPECIALLY “DISP ADD” and “TANKER”. Is there a way we can add a box in the preflight planning section where the user can manually add these fuel items? Such as a box where the user can type in the amount of Dispatcher Add (DISP ADD) fuel they would like to add and as well a box where the user can type in the amount of TANKER fuel they would like to add?

This would make the realism of SimBrief increase 10 fold if you could add this functionality as pretty much every flight in the real world has either DISP ADD or TANKER fuel on every dispatch release (OFP).

CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO THE SIMBRIEF SWA OFP FORMAT IN ORDER TO MATCH REAL WORLD SWA OFP FORMAT, SHOWN BELOW:

REAL-WORLD SWA OFP Dispatch Release for your reference, SHOWN BELOW:

Please let me know if you need any other information regarding these requests. I would be more than happy to provide anything you may require.

Looking forward to talking with you very soon!

Regards,

Southwest Virtual Airlines
NOC Dispatch Team
Standards Division