I am working on MS2024 career mode and I notice a ton of missing airports (of course smaller ones). Not trying to be a smart aleck, but please tell me why I should be a full suscriber when so many airports are missing? Is there some kind of bug because I don’t remember this many missing airfields in MSFS 2020.
Hi…,
Please provide say 6 of these missing airports and we can investigate.
Cheers
Ian
Hi,
Just a side note: you don’t currently use our navigation data because it’s under development. So, subscriber or not subscriber, you use the underlying MSFS2024 data.
Second, are these airports available in the MSFS2024 WorldMap (e.g., via Freeflight), or do you miss them only in the MSFS2024 EFB/flight planner?
Can you give us more details, please? Lastly, as Ian mentioned, a few examples please that we can check to see if we have them in our database.
Again, the navigation data update is not yet released, but we are working on it.
Cheers
Richard
I will send u the next 6 I see shouldn’t take long as most of the flights I plan on navigate aren’t showing up some airfields. The are all available on the in game flight planner but not sim brief.
Thank you, but I´m still slightly confused about where the airports are missing.
In your topic, you wrote, “Missing Airports in MSFS2024.” - in your initial post, you wrote:
So, I thought you meant that the airports are missing in the simulator …
But now, in your last posting, you wrote:
That means that the missing airports are now included in MSFS2024 but not in SimBrief.
However, Simbrief has nothing to do with the in-game data; it uses our own Jeppesen source, and therefore, the data in Simbrief for MSFS2020 and MSFS2024 are identical. In other words, when you don´t find the airport in Simbrief in MSFS2024, you won´t find it in Simbrief in MSFS2020, too.
So, please explain in detail what you are doing to identify the missing airports. Which application are you using? If possible, take a few screenshots so that we can see where you are.
Sorry, but we need these details because we are slightly lost here …
Thank you,
Richard
I’m sorry for the confusion so let me just tell you what I’m doing and then you can figure out what I’m doing wrong. I am using Sim brief both in the sim on the website. As far as I can tell, they are identical what I am saying is inside of Microsoft flight simulator 2024 There are many small airfields that do not exist in sim brief. Whether that is by design or not, I don’t know the point of making is why subscribe to a service that I cannot use for many of my small Bush flights? I will give you one example from yesterday plus 5 other airports that are sea ports that are in the SIM but not in Sim brief. A67, 5C5, 16K, 19P, 57A, CGA. I realize the last five are all seaports and perhaps outside the scope of your software, but I can assure you there are many other small ground based airfields that I will happen across over the next several days, including the A67 I told you about that are in Microsoft flight simulator 2024, but not sim brief. Again again, perhaps that is working as intended, and I just don’t understand. However, as a simmer if they exist in Microsoft flight simulator 2024 and I can use the game flight planner to plan my flights. It kind of defeats the point of subscribing to Nava graph. Again, perhaps I just don’t understand the scope of your software.
While I am on the subject of being confused, I ran into another issue I’m not sure is related to the newness of MSFS2024 or something I’ve forgotten. I planned a flight in Simbrief to fly from KBFR to KM20. I imported into MSFS 2024 with no issues as the route and waypoints, ending airfield all showed up fine. I took off, set my GPS but upon arriving at my last/only waypoint on the way to KM20, I noticed there was no waypoint to the airfield. If you look at the charts, everything indicated that it was there an it shows up in my route planning, but the GPS no longer recognized it. So, I though no problem, I’ll just input KM20 into direct and lo and behold, MSFS2024 didn’t recogize KM20 anymore. So, I entered M20 and it found it without issue. So, I’m a bit confused as initially, all went well, Simbrief accurately planned the flight with a couple of waypoints and the destination airfield. It was then loaded into the MSFS2024 sim with no issue and showed the waypoints and destination airfield. In fact, it still shows the desination airfied on my EFB, but the GPS in MSFS2024 acted like there was no destination airfield and could not find the KM20 airfield that it did accept from the simbrief flight planner.
EDIT: FYI my routing was KBFR/13 N0160F040 DCT JUDDI DCT DOWNS DCT KM20/02 I was fine until I got to the DOWNS WP, at which point there was no KM20 WP. FYI this is not the first time this has happened and it’s always the destination airfield that is left off. In most cases, since I fly mostly bush type missions, the desination airfield is a very small one.
EDIT 2: Just pulled up MSFS 2024 career KBWC to OCA6…OCA6 (Emory Ranch) is missing in simbrief, but available in the MSFS 2024 planner. If I understood you correctly, you said that is to be expected. I guess my question as a subscriber is why? Shouldn’t simbrief, for simmers, mirror the biggest sim in the world even if their data feed doesn’t? I’m not trying to be a smart ass or anything, just trying to understand why a simmer would use a service that is missing a lot of smaller airfields regardless of the reason why?
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Hi,
No data provider offers all small airfields because they are simply not part of the AIRAC. That has nothing to do with us or our service; you see exactly the same behavior with the MSFS2024 stock data.
The problem is that MS/ASOBO “creates” the airports from sat-images, and here you find many more airports than in the data itself. Try exactly the same in the internal “MSFS Flight Planner” which uses the LIDO navigation data in the background. You also do not find any of these airports because, as I wrote, the countries/the AIPs don´t report all these small airfields, so the data provider doesn´t include them. Also, the original CIFP FAA data doesn´t include these airports.
Jeppesen has the largest number of airports and procedures, including, that´s right. Jeppesen offers an airline-independent service, and therefore, it´s the largest database, but largely doesn´t mean all - it means more than all other data providers.
Hope that makes something clearer,
Richard
Here is the A67 airport in Harlequin Lake. MS Flight planner had no issue finding it (which you explained why) as well as putting togther a flight plan, which would appear to be at odds with what you told me? Perhaps A67 is one just missing, or am I again confusing something? Sorry to sound so dense. I get what you are saying about what Asobo does vs. real world, but at least in this case, it does appear that the in game flight planner does indeed include at least some of these airfields?
EDIT: Also, you didn’t address the GPS waypoints not populating. This is happening to me all the time using sim brief, but when I load the exact same flightplan in the in game flight planner, it works fine. Is this something that is not fully implemented yet, or just a bug?
Hi,
We will re-check it and try to add these missing airports in any further updates.
Cheers,
Richard
Ok thanks Richard. let me know if you can replicate the issue i’m having with GPS points not populating. That one is a real showstopper as I don’t know until I’m in the cockpit looking at the G-1000 that they’re not populating, so I’m just using the in game planner until this is resolved.