EKVG – Vágar Airport Runway Overlap

Hello,
I have try to make an airport scenery for MSFS 2020 and I have use the Airport options :

<DeleteAirport deleteAllApproaches="FALSE" deleteAllApronLights="TRUE" deleteAllAprons="TRUE" deleteAllFrequencies="TRUE" deleteAllHelipads="TRUE" deleteAllRunways="TRUE" deleteAllStarts="TRUE" deleteAllTaxiways="TRUE" deleteAllBlastFences="TRUE" deleteAllBoundaryFences="TRUE" deleteAllJetways="TRUE" deleteAllControlTowers="TRUE" deleteAllDepartures="FALSE" deleteAllArrivals="FALSE" deleteAllPaintedElements="TRUE" deleteAllLightSupports="TRUE" deleteAllTaxiwaySigns="TRUE" deleteAllILSs="FALSE" deleteAllTerminalWaypoints="FALSE" deleteAllTerminalNDBs="FALSE"/>

I only let FALSE approaches, departures and arrivals.
Then the problem steel here and sometimes, maybe 1 game loading on 4, I have only 1 runway …

I hope it can help you to inverstigate the problem :slight_smile:
Cheers,
Léo

Apparently, I have remove my Content.xml and then the problem seems to be fixed. Probably, cause I have install Navigraph after my scenery exist. Maybe, an issue link to the order of loading ?

Hi Leo,
correct, that´s exactly the correct way and what we told the scenery designer … The issue exists normally only on the airports which are not existing in the default data. - therefore, when you don´t use us, the scenery looks good, because there is no underlying runways.

But as far as you use our dataset, we “create” the missing airports in a very limited design (only the runway, lights, painting and navigation elements). Now the scenery designer expect no underlying data, therefore they don´t add the “DeleteAirport” tag with the different attributes and therefore you see the double runways. Our´s and the runways from the addon-scenery.

So, I´m currently in contact with several addon-designer (free- and payware) to inform the devs there, that they should include these “DeleteAirport” tag at least, with following attributes:

deleteAllApproaches = FALSE
deleteAllFrequencies = FALSE
deleteAllHelipads = TRUE
deleteAllRunways = TRUE
deleteAllStarts = TRUE
deleteAllDepartures = FALSE
deleteAllArrivals = FALSE
deleteAllPaintedElements = TRUE
deleteAllLightSupports = TRUE

These settings override our settings but not the terminal procedures which will be updated monthly. So the user can expect a clean and good scenery with monthly updated terminal procedures.

Cheers,
Richard

Hi again Leo,
with Navigraph Navdata client beta 16 (onwards) we place our package high enough to “overwrite” the default data but low enough NOT to overwrite customer addon sceneries. Also, our client removes the entries in the content.xml files also, when you remove the dataset. Therefore it´s very, very important, that:

  1. you have installed the latest Navigraph Navdata client (at least beta 16)
  2. you remove the dataset and re-install it

With this way, you can be sure, that the order in the content.xml file is alsways correct. Ok to delete the content.xml is also valid :slight_smile:

Cheers,
Richard

Hi again Richard.

I’ve got the latest scenery update and still getting a double runway.

Any ideas? I’ll post it on the scenery developers site as well and see if they’ve found a fix

Thanks

Hi,
and you have done point 2 from the FAQ

Cheers,
Richard

Hi again,
I´m in contact with the developer now - I know now, that these “DeleteAirport”-element is currently NOT set therefore the double scenery view. He will add it, we will test it and I guess after that, all is working as expected. We have made a successful first test with his FHSH scenery.

Here from the SDK developer mode - you see, we have the “DeleteAirport” element included, but in the addon scenery it´s missing and therefore the bad result:

Cheers,
Richard

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Hi,
the developer has added the changes and forward me the fixed scenery. Now it looks perfect - all double scenery elements are gone. So, I have recommended him, to add these to all his sceneries - also this is the recommendation for all addon-scenery

Cheers,
Richard

PS: I guess he will release an update for his sceneries as soon as possible :wink:

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I think the poor guy is pulling his hair out. He did a ‘fix’ which I download into my Community folder and then fired up FS and it was perfect. I then did a couple of flights (restarting the Sim due to the weather bug that reverts to CAVOK) and did a flight from Orkney to Faroe and when I emerged at minimums b*gger me there was 2x runways again. I didn’t touch anything to do with the Navigraph database in between. Something very odd going on.

I cleared my cache, switched off the Sim, deleted and re-installed his fix and then restarted the sim to continue to Iceland. 2 runways again :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

I though I was going mad but after his initial fix earlier I took a screenshot on the PC and there is 100% only one runway.

:thinking:

I have one additional tip, but …

Two questions:

  1. Do you have installed the Aerosoft Paderborn scenery?

  2. Can you upload your current content.xml file please?

I also had what you described … so both questions are important to know :sunglasses:

Thank you
Richard

I’m searching for EDLP in my folders. How do I find my content.xml file (sorry for being simple :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:)

According to Marketplace I have the free Paderborn add-on installed

Just checked Content Manager and there’s an update available for EDLP I haven’t installed. It sounds like you have a plan so won’t do anything yet

:slight_smile: my fault - I have forgotten to forward the link, you find the answer here::slight_smile:

… and by the way, it not sooo simple :slightly_smiling_face:

… and yes, I have a plan but you can update the Paderborn scenery, that should solve anything :slight_smile:

Richard

Richard, I had a few files in the content manager that needed updated (mostly Japan) but Paderborn was there too. Downloaded the update, closed and restarted the Sim and EKVG loaded correctly with the single 12/30 runway with one set of markings and lights.

Do you still need the content file?

And why on earth does downloading an update for a German airport fix the Faroe Islands??? MSFS works in weird and mysterious ways!!

Hi,
find thanks for the feedback … I´m honest, yes - if possible and if it´s ok for you, can you upload your content.xml file here. I only want a verification of my theory …
Thank you,
Richard

OK, I have one in my desktop but it won’t show up when I try and download a file from the PC. Do you have an email address, might be easier!

No problem - I have sent you a PM :wink:
Richard

Sent the file. It’s PRE Paderborn update. Let me know if you want a current one too.