Taxiways B and G at CYWG are not correctly identified. Taxiway G is shown to go right up to Runway 13/31. However, in reality, it only goes to Taxiway B and it’s B that goes right up to 13/31. I’ve attached a couple images showing this.
Hi,
Sorry, but I can’t follow your report. For me both images are the same.
Cheers
Richard
Interesting. Instead, try this link in Google Maps. It shows the intersections of Winnipeg Airport (CYWG) Twy B, G, and Rwy 13/31.
My other image references the Navigraph chart titled “AIRPORT, AIRPORT INFO 10-9”.
Twy G used to go right up to Rwy 13/31 but several years ago (10+) the airport authority changed it so Twy G ends at Twy B, and Twy B now goes right up to Rwy 13/31. The Google Map shows the old hold-short line on B south of G, which has since been painted black.
Both hold short lines are depicted (in the same spots) on the NavCanada chart as well:
CYWG_AERODROME_CHART.pdf (272.9 KB)
Regards,
Tim
Sorry, I still don´t know what you exactly mean. Therefore:
What is wrong, what is right in your eyes, and where? In the charts, on the sim, on the google image?
A google satellite image is not a reference. Tim (@Rodeo314) shows the official chart for this airport, and here, both holding points are also included (thanks, Tim).
At least, I can´t see any issue between our charts and the charts from the AIP Canada.
Cheers,
Richard
Navigraph is showing incorrect data. It shows Twy G going right up to Rwy 13/31. It is Twy B that goes right up to 13/31.
Twy G ends at B. This issue is showing up in the VATSIM environment, because both controllers and pilots are misidentifying the taxiway. For example, during a session last Monday, the controller instructed me to exit left off Rwy 31 at Golf. This is incorrect, it should be exit left off Rwy 31 at Bravo.
Ok, do you have any real-world reference for this I can´t find any in the AIP Canada.
I believe, and that’s what you see on your screenshot too (and on all charts, AIP and Jeppesen), that this small part between the crossing B/G and the runway is not really a taxiway - or at least it´s unclear what letter this taxiway has.
But I´m with you—two equal holding points look a little bit strange. As I wrote, I don´t find any official reference to the correct holding point and/or the correct taxiway. I have made a first review of AIP Canada but without any success.
Do you happen to have any references for us? (To report such issues, we need an official reference—a satellite image is not an official reference, I´m sorry.)
Thank you very much for your report & your effort!
Cheers,
Richard
I’ll see what I can dig up for official references. For now, all I can say is trust me!
I work for Nav Canada as a simulation specialist. My job is to build simulation exercises to train air traffic controllers, specifically CYWG tower. I also have 6 months of training at CYWG tower as an ATC student.
I trust you, and as I wrote, it looks a little bit strange, but we need an official reference for an official report to Jeppesen.
On the other hand, when you work for Nav Canada, I recommend bringing it directly to Jeppesen or reporting it internally to make it clear in the AIP.
Cheers
Richard
Unfortunately, the only official sources are ambiguous in how they display Taxiways B and G. Both look as though either could extend all the way to Rwy 13/31. Instead, let me offer up snippets of actual Nav Canada lesson plans. I can’t share the entire document because it is Nav Canada Proprietary material.
The figure below shows Taxiway B intersecting with Rwy 13/31.
The figure below is a sample of phraseology to instruct an aircraft to exit onto Taxiway B.
Ah, so is the base map data which shows that hold point G straight from Jeppesen?
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