Doesn’t seem to relate to time passed but more when switching between 2D-VR. Which I guess is because the Navigraph session in VR is closed whenever switching to 2D.
Will do more testing but this is my theory at this time. I haven’t seen myself signed out once signed in as long as I stay in VR.
Every switch over into vr from 2d for me also, never had the problem before beta.
We are unable to reproduce this issue at the moment, but we have yet to try it in VR.
@nomancs69 , can you confirm that the old panel works as expected still? I just want to rule out MSFS as a root cause.
Thanks for the feedback!
Kind Regards,
Malte
I’ve tried toggling between VR and pancake mode a dozen times and never lost the connection. What I note, however, is:
(a) The panel has to be opened independently in both 2D and 3D mode i.e. it’s not visible in the alternate mode unless also manually opened in that mode, so can disappear when switching
(b) Every time you switch modes, a prompt appears to load the current flight plan, even though already loaded
(c) I’ve noticed that the prompt also repeats when using the toolbar “Travel To” function (double chevron). I’ve only tried this in VR.
Sounds like a pain, but is it unique to our panel only? To my knowledge, our panel should behave the same as all the others? 
I’d imagine that switching context has many implications for MSFS itself, so I’m not sure there is anything we can do?
Yes, this shows up if you have a flight loaded in the simulator (like the old panel). You can dismiss it, but we should also try to verify that the simulator flight differs from what you have loaded in the panel already before showing the prompt! Or would you rather not see the prompt at all?
That is expected, as it will reload the environment that the panel exists in completely (including all other panels). Such a reset is identical to a simulator restart in the context of the panel, and thus it will ask you if you want to import/load the simulator flight.
Unfortunately, there is absolutely nothing we can do about this… But we should try to do something to not spam you with “Load flight” prompts as soon the panel is reloaded!
Sounds like a pain, but is it unique to our panel only? To my knowledge, our panel should behave the same as all the others?
Tried it out and you’re right. The inbuilt MSFS panels behave the same way.
Yes, this shows up if you have a flight loaded in the simulator (like the old panel). You can dismiss it, but we should also try to verify that the simulator flight differs from what you have loaded in the panel already before showing the prompt! Or would you rather not see the prompt at all?
Definitely need the prompt to load the current flight plan, but preferably not if it is already loaded. I don’t think there’s any other way to get the current plan from MSFS (other than open the same pln file it has loaded)?
Forgive me if this is obvious but, even if toggling layers on/off is not possible, could you not offer extra maps that are essentially just the VFR map with pre-selected layers? I’m not suggesting every possible combination be implemented! Similarly, I miss the World Map and wonder if something like it could be added as a map choice?
Well, based on what I’ve seen and reported here, without trying in VR you’ll most likely not be able to repro the issue. And once again, having to press a sign in button is not that big of a deal even if annoying. However, having to take your VR glasses off whenever you’ve just entered VR mode and opened the Navigraph window. Only in order to see the web browser asking you to once again sign in, now that is more of a big deal.
Let me know if I can be of any help in troubleshooting this issue. I know for a fact this issue wasn’t present (at least not over here) using v1.3.
The old version works as intended, I loaded up earlier and the charts signed in as they should (yipee) once switching from 2d to vr with no prompt to sign in,
However, i was prompted to sign in again once I selected the PENCIL icon to amend the flight origin, with a flight imported from simbrief, the keyboard was shown then switched to the sign in screen in the flash of an eye.
I repeated this step just now whilst testing the previous build in vr as requested, the same scenario was repeated, the crash to sign in didnt happen on any other icon apart from the PENCIL icon on the origin option on the flight tab.
Hope this helps.
Coming in with some news as well.
Just started a flight and usually I start by unloading the previous flight followed by pressing the Import Flight button, picking SimBrief and finishing off by pressing the Import button at the bottom. This time however, I realized this is not necessary. Since you already have the latest flight generated by SB in the list. So today I just clicked on the flight at the top of the list. I started doing this via the browser when I was still in 2D mode.
Once in MSFS and in VR mode, I started Navigraph via the in-game panel and what do you know…it opened without prompting me to sign in. I then did the same procedure, unloading the previous flight and picked the last generated SB flight from the list and it loaded just fine and without prompting me to sign in.
So at this point, I’m not sure if it was my different way loading the flight that resulted in not having to sign in. Or if it was just pure luck.
Im afraid im back to normal tonight, sign in required once selecting the in game panel.
Did you shut down the sim gracefully during the previous session?
Stephen
Yes, it has become very unpredictable as i loaded up again earlier and it didnt require signing in but selecting any pencil icon caused the sign in screen to appear again.
Yep, I can reproduce this. Back to sign in every time I click the pencil icon to edit either the destination or the origin airport. The keyboard pops up for an instant, then the Sign In prompt. This doesn’t happen when clicking the pencil to edit the route. Regarding any depenency on SimBrief, it was not in play. The flight plans to be edited came either via direct load from MSFS, or were loaded from history, their ultimate origin being LittleNavMap.
Hi,
We can reproduce the issue with being signed out when editing airports. We are investigating!
Regards,
Stephen
Intersting, all mine are from simbrief. Im wondering what the app will do today ?
Hi,
Could you please try it again now? It should not sign you out when you edit the origin or destination airports.
Regards,
Stephen
The issue has been fixed, thank goodness and thankyou.
I am getting major lagging when nav 8 is running now though, nav 1.3 is absolutely fine, once the lag has settled once loaded in but nav 8 just doesn’t settle the lagging and causes stitters every 1 or 2 seconds very confusing at the moment as no such problem at the start of the beta.
Yes, agree it’s fixed. Re stutters: I haven’t noticed a change since the fix, but I’ve only tried a single flight.
Stutters started a few days ago.