XP and CIFP mismatch

Navigation Data General non MSFS data
1

MSFS and CIFP is the same.

KORD.FI28R

ARINC424

SUSAP KORDK5FI28R  AVOGLR 010VOGLRK5PC0E  A    IF                                             18000                 0 PS   796481511
SUSAP KORDK5FI28R  AVOGLR 020MOTTTK5PC0E    010TF                                 + 09000                           0 PS   796491707
SUSAP KORDK5FI28R  AVOGLR 030RICKVK5PC0E       TF                                 + 08000                           0 PS   796501511
SUSAP KORDK5FI28R  AVOGLR 040BLUTOK5PC0E       TF                                 + 07000                           0 PS   796511511
SUSAP KORDK5FI28R  AVOGLR 050ROCSEK5PC0E       TF                                 + 06000                           0 PS   796521511
SUSAP KORDK5FI28R  AVOGLR 060WAVIEK5PC0EE B    CF ITSLK5      0929015827290031PI  + 05000                           0 PS   796531707
SUSAP KORDK5FI28R  I      010WAVIEK5PC0E  I    IF ITSLK5      09290158        PI  J 050000220018000                 0 NS   796541707
SUSAP KORDK5FI28R  I      011ADAMEK5PC0E       CF ITSLK5      0929012727300031PI  + 04000                           0 NS   796551707
SUSAP KORDK5FI28R  I      020WILLTK5PC0E  F    CF ITSLK5      0929007027300057PI  H 0220002200            KORD  K5PA0 NS   796562107
SUSAP KORDK5FI28R  I      030RW28RK5PG0GY M    CF ITSLK5      0929002327300047PI    00705             -300          0 NS   796571511
SUSAP KORDK5FI28R  I      040         0  M     CA                     2729        + 01100                           0 NS   796581305
SUSAP KORDK5FI28R  I      050         0        VI                     2150                                          0 NS   796591305
SUSAP KORDK5FI28R  I      060DPA  K5D 0VY      CF DPA K5      0000000026200180D   + 04000                           0 NS   796601305
SUSAP KORDK5FI28R  I      070DPA  K5D 0VE  R   HM                     0680T010    + 04000                           0 NS   796611305

Xpalne:

APPCH:010,A,I28R,VOGLR,VOGLR,K5,E,A,E  A, ,   ,IF, , , , , ,      ,    ,    ,    ,    , ,     ,     ,18000, ,   ,    ,   , , , , , ,0,N,S;
APPCH:020,A,I28R,VOGLR,MOTTT,K5,P,C,E   , ,010,TF, , , , , ,      ,    ,    ,    ,    ,+,09000,     ,     , ,   ,    ,   , , , , , ,0,N,S;
APPCH:030,A,I28R,VOGLR,RICKV,K5,P,C,E   , ,   ,TF, , , , , ,      ,    ,    ,    ,    ,+,08000,     ,     , ,   ,    ,   , , , , , ,0,N,S;
APPCH:040,A,I28R,VOGLR,BLUTO,K5,P,C,E   , ,   ,TF, , , , , ,      ,    ,    ,    ,    ,+,07000,     ,     , ,   ,    ,   , , , , , ,0,N,S;
APPCH:050,A,I28R,VOGLR,ROCSE,K5,P,C,E   , ,   ,TF, , , , , ,      ,    ,    ,    ,    ,+,06000,     ,     , ,   ,    ,   , , , , , ,0,N,S;
APPCH:060,A,I28R,VOGLR,WAVIE,K5,P,C,E   , ,   ,TF, , , , , ,      ,    ,    ,    ,    ,+,05000,     ,     , ,   ,    ,   , , , , , ,0,N,S;
APPCH:070,A,I28R,VOGLR,ADAME,K5,P,C,EE  , ,   ,CF, ,ITSL,K5,P,I,      ,0929,0127,2730,0031,+,04000,     ,     , ,   ,    ,   , , , , , ,0,N,S;
APPCH:010,I,I28R, ,ADAME,K5,P,C,E  I, ,   ,IF, ,ITSL,K5,P,I,      ,0929,0127,    ,    ,J,04000,02200,18000, ,   ,    ,   , , , , , ,0,N,S;
APPCH:020,I,I28R, ,WILLT,K5,P,C,E  F, ,   ,CF, ,ITSL,K5,P,I,      ,0929,0070,2730,0057,H,02200,02200,     , ,   ,-300,   ,KORD,K5,P,A, ,0,N,S;
APPCH:030,I,I28R, ,RW28R,K5,P,G,G  M, ,   ,CF, ,ITSL,K5,P,I,      ,0929,0023,2730,0047, ,00705,     ,     , ,   ,-300,   , , , , , ,0,N,S;
APPCH:040,I,I28R, , , , , ,  M , ,   ,CA, , , , , ,      ,    ,    ,2730,    ,+,01100,     ,     , ,   ,    ,   , , , , , ,0,N,S;
APPCH:050,I,I28R, , , , , ,    , ,   ,VI, , , , , ,      ,    ,    ,2150,    , ,     ,     ,     , ,   ,    ,   , , , , , ,0,N,S;
APPCH:060,I,I28R, ,DPA,K5,D, ,V   , ,   ,CF, ,DPA,K5,D, ,      ,0000,0000,2620,0180,+,04000,     ,     , ,   ,    ,   , , , , , ,0,N,S;
APPCH:070,I,I28R, ,DPA,K5,D, ,VE H,R,   ,HM, , , , , ,      ,    ,    ,0680,T010, ,     ,     ,     , ,   ,    ,   , , , , , ,0,N,S;

Missing WAVIE in the approach .

2

First, we don´t use CIFP - we use our own source directly from Jeppesen. The codings can be different …

WAVIE is part of the approach transition, but I´m not sure this is correct because, according to the FAA, WAVIE is the initial approach fix, yet we indeed have ADAME as the initial approach fix in our data.

We will ask Jeppesen whether there is a specific reason for this and/or whether they can fix it in one of the upcoming cycles.

Cheers,
Richard

3

Here’s the issue: Jeppesen sources its data from regional publications—in this case, the FAA CIFP—so I consider that the authoritative source. I don’t know what data was used for the conversion, but WAVIE is a FACF at this point and should be displayed even when no transition is selected.

4

No, that is not correct … there are many differences between the FAA CIFP and the Jeppesen data (US area only), so it is not a 1:1 copy of the CIFP data. Anyway…

We will ask Jeppesen to check and (if necessary) correct this in one of the next AIRAC cycles.

Cheers,
Richard

5

So which data source should we trust here? The Jeppesen chart and the FAA AIP chart match perfectly, and both identify WAVIE as the IF. That suggests this is either a source-data issue, which seems unlikely, or a problem with the conversion on your side.

6

As I wrote before, WAVIE is part of the approach transition in our source … it is not an issue with our converter; the output is exactly what we have in our data, even when you don´t believe it.

We will ask Jeppesen to check and (if necessary) correct this in one of the next AIRAC cycles.

Cheers,
Richard