I’ve been flying the Toliss A319, A320NEO and the A340-600 for several years (The A319 for 6) with literally thousands of flights all over the world using simbarief with no problems whatsoever. Every single flight plan I create providing the airports runways can accommodate the aircraft were easily imported using the init request function and I was able to happily do my flights.
Since updating to the latest latest airac in October every single flight plan I import is somehow broken where I do not have a star. When I try to select the star provided by simbrief into the FMS often they are not even included in the list of STARS in the planes at all. So I always have a discontinuity right before the airport.
I’ve just been winging it up until now and free flying manual approaches just to be able to complete flights, but I can’t really continue like this because it’s getting a bit frustrating.
I’ve tried reinstalling the latest airac into X Plane multiple times but that doesn’t seem to be fixing the issue.
Is it possible that Airac file could be corrupted somehow during the instal?
I can’t understand why every single flight plan worked perfectly for years requiring zero input from me and with zero discontinuities and then suddenly not a single one is working and every single plan imports with no STAR and so a discon just before every arrival airport as there’s no approach despite is me doing exactly the same things as I’ve always done and nothing different.
Are there any other possible suggestions as to why this could be happening and only since the latest update?
Should I: Roll back to 2509 (the only non-file-system fix to fly now)
The ToLiSS has never imported SID nor STAR as part of the INIT REQUEST Simbrief integration. You can roll back to 2509 but I doubt it’ll make any difference.
That, on the other hand, should not be the case. But without an example of a Simbrief briefing and the associated route, it’s difficult to help. Can you please provide such an example? For example a link to the briefing PDF of a flight plan where you are unable to manually select the STAR to match what Simbrief gave you.
You are correct, I tried.. I used a different flight planner that I found online which offers a whole bunch of previous airacs not a single one of them worked in two different Toliss planes.
I’m stuck in the same situation every single time with every single flight plan, even if I completely manually and put the flight plan I have a discontinuity at the end that I just cannot get rid of without destroying the approach. I don’t think it’s a problem with the flight plans.. I think somehow the airac imported into X Plane is somehow corrupted.
You are correct, I tried.. I used a different flight planner that I found online which offers a whole bunch of previous airacs not a single one of them worked in two different Toliss planes.
I’m stuck in the same situation every single time with every single flight plan, even if I completely manually and put the flight plan I have a discontinuity at the end that I just cannot get rid of without destroying the approach. I don’t think it’s a problem with the flight plans.. I think somehow the airac imported into X Plane is somehow corrupted.
Hi,
Which flight planner is this? Can you please provide us with the link? Is it RouteFinder?
I ask because RouteFinder does not have full SIDs/STARs (only the exit/entry points) and no approaches. So, I’m wondering what flight planner you are using.
Also, there are no SIDs/STARs, an approach in your PDF, or your flightplan.
In Simbrief, do you generate a new flight or use an old flightplan?
Lastly, could you please post screenshots of the ToLiss FMS regarding the missing STARs? Also, the ident page. Because I miss the connection here.
The files are not corrupt, and a new revision is not needed, but you may have an installation issue somewhere.
Many STAR procedures in the US (including the majority of STAR + runway combinations into KATL) end in radar vectors (which, on Airbus, means a MANUAL leg followed by a discontinuity). This is not a corrupt AIRAC but instead just expected, normal behavior.
In real life, air traffic control will give you radar vectors to the initial or final approach fix and get you established on the approach; in the sim, if you’re not using some from of air traffic control, you will have to figure it out for yourself.
As for removing a vectors leg on Airbus, you can (for example):
delete the MANUAL leg (which then allows you to remove the discontinuity)
keep the discontinuity in, once arriving at the vectors leg, use heading mode to vector yourself around and then use a “direct to” to join the final approach when it becomes practical to do so
Some Youtube videos or e.g. Twitch streams will have examples of people doing that sort of thing in the sim.
Ahhh.. thank you Tim!
That’s what happens when one spends all runs time flying around the rest of the world but not in the US..
I’m bouncing around now from state to state and finding out that there are no arrivals and in many casses even departures for countless airports. Caught me so much by surprise I thought my whole system was broken as I am so used to having my A to B completely linked from end to end.
But.. when I did create flights between the states and Navigraph offered to me the approach in the flight plan, what caught me most by surprise was that so many of these approaches were not available in any of the Toliss planes after INIT Request and trying to add the runway and the approach.
I thought that once you’ve updated the airac everywhere, whatever is in Simbrief and Navigraph should also be available in X-Plane but they simply were not there in the list of options.
Thanks Richard I knew that.. I was just trying to find a site that had older airacs for me to test to rule out my current one being messed up.
”manually enter them into the FMC/FMGS.”
That is my entire point here.. as mentioned even when Navigraph offered me SIDs and Stars, those very same SIDs and STARS were not available in my Toliss planes when trying to add the same departure and arrival data manually. I could select the runway, but they either had a totally different set of STAR choices, or non at all.
Just tried again with Simbrief: KDSM**/31 N0470F380 DCT CATTS DCT PER GULLI3 KOKC/**35L
When I import that into the Toliss A340-600 and try to manually select the Departure and Arrival..
I’m left with are this.. never have I had such shattered flight plans with 4 discontinuities. And if I try to delete them all they do is shift back to the previous waypoint along the flight plan.
But then, you have installed the data in the wrong location. So the main questions:
#1 How do you update the data? #2 What is your X-Plane root folder? #3 Do you have multiple X-Plane copies on your system? #4 Have you installed the FAA CIFP at any time? #5 Can you post the FMC ident page from ToLiss to identify which cycle you have installed?
As I wrote before, our goal is to support all sim’s add-ons and apps with one and the same data quality, meaning when you select a procedure in app A, you should select the same procedure in add-on B. That is our intention. X-Plane is a dataset we have supported for over 10 years, so it is not new for us.
So, it must be an installation issue on your system, when you don’t find the same procedures.
100% agree with you, I’ve been using X-Plane for maybe 29 years since it was invented.. and Simbrief for maybe 10 years. These same Toliss planes since they were all released. I’ve never seen this kind of behaviour before.
It’s only happened since updating to the latest airac in October. I tried with the A320neo and it’s exactly the same problem.
Just did a flight in the A340-600. Created flight plan in Simbrief from a London to Malmo, Sweden. Imported flight plan, added departure runway and SID, added destination runway and STAR, everything completely flawless with not single discontinuity. Perfect flight from start to finish.
