Simbrief Empty weight values are different than ATR 72 msfs

I am having this issue ^^ in MSFS ATR-72 and msfs said that it is simbrief issue

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Hi, can you provide the Empty Weight that is shown in the MSFS payload editor for the ATR-72?

Best regards,

Hi, thanks. Indeed the Empty Weight seems different from the public profiles available for the Microsoft ATR.

What variant of the ATR are you using? Is it the freighter?

Can you try saving this airframe, re-generating your flight, and trying the import again?

Cheers,

I am using the ATR-72 regular non highline version from HH

Its still off.

Hi is this going to be fixed?

Also im using the profile you gave me and simbrief plans me so much fuel.

Im more than halfway on my short 1hr 10m flight from NZQN - NZCH and i still have 40% fuel left.

Actually 13010 + 329 (crew weight) is 13339 kilos, is almost identical to the empty weight in Awemeter’s profiles (which use 29 410 lbs or 13 340 kilos).

So that probably isn’t the source of the issue?

Regards,

Tim

I don’t have the ATR, and I imagine Derek (Simbrief) doesn’t either, but I’m not sure how we’re supposed to understand what’s going on without a video or an explanation somewhere.

In the lower-left corner, we have:

  • empty weight 13 010 kgs
  • crew weight 329 kgs
  • payload 6 938 kgs
  • zero fuel weight 19 657 kgs
  • fuel load of 2 216 kgs

And a previous screenshot as reference for the 13 010 figure since it’s hidden above:

First of all, which of the figures (white vs. green) are entered by the user, imported by the plugin, or computed by the aircraft? Without having the aircraft, I don’t see how we are supposed to figure it out.

Not sure why the payload is listed as 6 938 instead of 6 955 in your briefing, but not knowing the above I can’t really hazard a guess.

Also no idea why the fuel load is much higher than in the briefing (by almost 15%).

Secondly, assuming the green figures are computed, this doesn’t make sense (13 010 + 329 + 6 938 adds up to 20 277 and not 19 657).

Then, why is the ZFW 20 308 in the other screen? Without having the aircraft, I can’t see how to figure it out either.

Finally, as per the multitude of screenshots available here, the empty weight looks like it should be either of 13 010 kgs (as in the “corrected” profile suggested by Derek above) or 13 339 - 13 340 kgs (as in the Awemeter-provided profile available directly on Simbrief). If neither of these profiles work, then the cause of the issue must be different despite the conclusion on the MSFS forums (and quite possibly outside of something that can be fixed on the Simbrief side).

The block fuel in your briefing is:

The aircraft appears to have 11 269 lbs (5 111 - 5 112 kgs) of capacity, so with 1 928 kgs of block fuel you’re supposed to start with about 37.9% of fuel.

Although given the 2 216 (or 2 217) kgs seemingly loaded (see above) then you would have actually started with about 43.4% of fuel instead.

If you’re still at 40% (say 39.6%) after 35 minutes of flight, then the aircraft only used about 194 kgs of fuel for taxi, takeoff, climb and however long you’ve been cruising, which does seem quite low. Although I imagine it’s also possible you came too close to a fuel pump in the sim scenery while taxiing and your fuel tanks got filled to 50% without you noticing?

Either way, the fuel burns on Simbrief are based on real-world fuel usage data (whenever available, which I believe is the case for the ATR base profiles) rather than a specific addon’s in-sim fuel burn. So it’s also possible that the Hans Hartmann simply uses less fuel than the real-world ATR 72-600 would.




Anyway, in order to investigate further and better assist you, I think a video of the Simbrief import procedure and aircraft loading procedure would really help.

Regards,

Tim

Video of Importing simbrief OFP.

Video of importing weight values from Simbrief and loading into aircraft: Watch MedalTVMicrosoftFlightSimulator202420251115160621184 | Streamable