Request for FMS Bridge Visual 28R and GLS BV 28R Approach Procedures for SFO

Navigation Data SID/STAR/APPR
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I previously saw people asking for the Quiet Bridge Visual and I get that they are not in the database. But the two procedures I mentioned in the title is supposed to be in the FMS except for that they are for some selected airlines like UAL AAL afaik.

Link for the

SFO FMS Bridge Visual 28R + Tipp Toe Visual 28L
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Hi,
Sorry, adding these procedures to our database in this way is impossible.

We can add the procedures to our pipeline when you can offer us the coded procedures into an ARINC424 text file (132 characters per line).

Thank you
Richard

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Thanks for the reply. I’ll look into it.

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Just want to make sure, what I need to provide is something like: SUSAP KSFOK2FI28R I 010CEPINK2PC0E I IF IGWQK2 10380120 PI J 030000180018000 0 NS 132061310

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Exactly yes :+1:

Cheers
Richard

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Hi! Does this meet your requirements?

SUSAP KSFOK2FR28R AARCHI 010ARCHIK2PC0E A IF 07000 18000 5 DSB 133312508
SUSAP KSFOK2FR28R AARCHI 020TRDOWK2PC0E TF + 06000 5 DSB 133322508
SUSAP KSFOK2FR28R AARCHI 030GAROWK2PC0E TF + 04000 5 DSB 133332508
SUSAP KSFOK2FR28R AARCHI 040JANYYK2PC0E TF + 02500 5 DSB 133342508
SUSAP KSFOK2FR28R AARCHI 050SAMMLK2PC0E TF + 01500 5 DSB 133352508
SUSAP KSFOK2FR28R AARCHI 060F101DK2PC0EE TF + 01200 5 DSB 133362508
SUSAP KSFOK2FR28R AEDDYY 005EDDYYK2PC0E A IF 06000 18000240 5-DSB 133372508
SUSAP KSFOK2FR28R AEDDYY 010SIDBYK2PC0E TF + 05000 5 DSB 133382508
SUSAP KSFOK2FR28R AEDDYY 020JANYYK2PC0E TF + 02500 5 DSB 133392509
SUSAP KSFOK2FR28R AEDDYY 030SAMMLK2PC0E TF + 01500 5 DSB 133402508
SUSAP KSFOK2FR28R AEDDYY 040F101DK2PC0EE TF + 01200 5 DSB 133412508
SUSAP KSFOK2FR28R R 010F101DK2PC0E F IF + 01200 5 DSB 133422509
SUSAP KSFOK2FR28R R 030RW28RK2PG0GY M TF 00068 -300 5 DA 133432508
SUSAP KSFOK2FR28R R 035 0 M VA 2839 + 00413 5 DA 133442508
SUSAP KSFOK2FR28R R 040 0 VM 3100 03000 5 DA 133452508

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Also by manually parse them to the X-Plane format I do see the correct procedure.

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Hi,
Thanks, I check it but it looks promising. Thank you! :clap:

Cheers
Richard

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Hi,
Just an update to this. We are happy to offer this tailored approach into KSFO, starting with AIRAC 2510 in all datasets:

Here from the MSFS2024 EFB:

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Thanks for your help in this case, and have a great day.
Richard

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It would be great if someone could add the RNAV Visual Runway 1R approach: https://charts-api.oakartcc.org/v1/charts/static/RNAV%20VISUAL%20RWY%201R.pdf

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I didn’t consider it because I believe the wind rarely comes from that direction. Maybe I will take a look at it when I have time for that.

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I coded the RNAV Visual 01R for the ARINC424 format, I’ve attached it below :slight_smile:

KSFO RNAV Visual 01R.txt (2.6 KB)

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Hi,
I’m sorry, but that’s not the standard ARINC424 format. I guess it is the X-Plane format. We can’t use this, sorry, but thanks for sharing at least for X-Plane users :wink:

Cheers
Richard

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Hi! I coded the procedure in the ARINC 424 format. And updated the FMS BV 28R since I found a newer chart of it. However I did not have the program to verify the procedure this time so please let me know if there’s anything wrong with it.

SFO.txt (4.4 KB)

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This coding is absolutely correct. It will be a part of the next cycle.

Cheers
Richard

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Hi! Just wanna make sure both procedures will be a part of the next cycle (2511) since I don’t find the RNAV Visual 1R and the FMS BV 28R is the first version I provided.

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The FMS Bridge Visual Rwy 28R has been slightly updated and adopted by many/most U.S. (and probably Canadian) airlines. After IF JANYY, the current version replaces SAAML and F101D with RAACL, DYLEE, and SAPPP (followed by RW28R). In order to reduce unnecessary TCAS RAs, the revised final approach segment reduces the angle/lateral rate of convergence between an aircraft on this approach and one established on the parallel 28L localizer.

  • I have attempted to code this into 132-character ARINC 424 format, which I believe I have done fairly successfully. However, I have very limited experience with ARINC 424 and I’m using an out of date specification, so there may be errors.
  • I imagine the new waypoints (RAACL, DYLEE, and SAPPP) are not in the Navigraph database. I left latitude/longitude information out of the attached file, but I can add that information for the waypoints in question if needed.
  • While operators and navigation data providers use various FMC naming conventions, I left the current Navigraph FMS identifier for this approach intact (R28RF).
  • Please let me know if there are any other corrections necessary.

If this works out, I can also explore coding the Tipp Toe Visual for 28L and 28R, which many operators have available in their navigation databases (rather than having to manually build in the FMC or fly using only raw data).

SFO FMS Bridge Visual 28R.txt (2.1 KB)

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