PMDG Flight Plan .rte file Update

@SimBrief,

Good morning sir! Hope you have been well.
I have noticed recently that the PMDG flight plan file that you can download (or program to be auto downloaded and added to PMDG’s Flightplan folder) is very basic in nature and doesn’t have much functionality compared to what it SHOULD auto populate, like it does in the real world.

The current PMDG Flightplan (.rte file) version Simbrief uses will only input the following:

  • ORIGIN
  • DEST
  • Route in between SID and STAR

In the real world, when you request the flight plan from the FMC, it will input the following:

  • ORIGIN
  • DEST
  • FLT NO
  • SID (if applicable)
  • Route in between SID and STAR
  • STAR (if applicable)

I can provide real world documentation/proof of this being the case, if you need me to do so.

Below, I have attached a modified .rte file that has satisfactorily includes the following:

  • ORIGIN
  • DEST
  • FLT NO
  • SID (if applicable)
  • Route in between SID and STAR
  • STAR (if applicable)

AND IT WORKS PERFECTLY WHEN YOU REQUEST TO LOAD IT INTO THE AIRCRAFT’S FMC!

I know it is a lot to ask but is there a chance you would be willing to add this functionality to the PMDG flightplan .rte file, Derek? I’m sure the community would be super happy and supportive of this new change if you did.

Let me know what you think of the concept.

EDIT:
The FLT NO in the .rte file is SWA1234
The ROUTE in .rte file is KMDW MIDWAY6 LEWKE GIJ J146 ETG MIP4 KLGA

thanks for everything!

All the best,
John

KMDWKLGA.rte (3.5 KB)

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Giving this a +1! Hope it gets considered and implemented as that will be a huge improvement.

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I’d love to see this implemented. +1

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I would love to see this implement, it would add so much realism.

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Would definitely love to see this added!

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I would also love to have this added as it would be a significant improvement towards making it more realistic. +1

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Great stuff! Let’s make it happen!

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Hi Team,

I have moved this thread into the Sim Brief Feature Request subcategory. This is have Voting capability and helps us prioritise development efforts.

If you have proposed this or support it, please vote for it above so we can gauge interest.

Cheers
Ian

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Definitely concur with this. Southwest Virtual has amazing resources and a team that can assist with this to match the real world operations. Can only assume this will benefit the community greatly even outside SWA ops!

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YES! This would be awesome.

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Love this idea! Definitely a worthwhile idea.

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The .rte file they are using is following the .rte guidelines we have provided to them in the past. The .rte SHOULD NOT have SID/STAR information on it as it can cause issues loading the .rte in the FMC.

Again the .rte format simbrief is using is based on what is proper to be used on the aircraft

Chris Makris
PMDG Technical Support

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To add to Chris’s reply the SID/STAR are actively removed if contained in the .rte import as is certainly the case using the OP’s posted route and the NGXu.

PMDG flightplan structure

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Would love to see this added.

Thank you.

Justin

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Chris,

With all due respect, I think you owe a little more of an explanation than “it can cause issues loading the FMC.” There is no issue with the .rte file @pucksnplanes20 posted. It loads everything correctly.

This is a huge additional feature uncovered by a user. It makes the route uplink behave like the real aircraft. I’m not sure why you’re trying to shut this down.

I hope that Navigraph adds this feature. This post has 50 upvotes within 24 hours while the others in this category have 0. I think that speaks for itself.

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Regardless, customers should be able to request features we would like. If it is possible, why restrict the ability of the software?

The fact that it is a guideline and what is “proper” to be used is not much of a reason to not allow navigraph to support this.

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@srcooke I’m trying to understand the reason PMDG would be against this when it clearly works and makes the user’s experience even that much better (and realistic).

Below, I have attached a different route file (KLAS-KBWI) and a video demonstrating that the PMDG FMC allows the capability to auto populate SID, STAR, and FLT NO from the .rte file.

KLASKBWI.rte (5.6 KB)

Let me know what your thoughts are.

Regards,
John

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Maybe try to find a workaround for that issue then, hard as it may seem? To shoot down a user idea that implies added realism to the FS experience seems counterintuitive for someone whose mission it is to develop such an amazing aircraft simulation….

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This would be amazing if this could be implemented!

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