Navigraph in-game panel v8.11 crashing MSFS2024

Hi team,

I’ve been troubleshooting Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 for the past month due to persistent CTDs. After completely cleaning up my Community folder and re-adding add-ons one by one, I’ve isolated the issue:
whenever the Navigraph in-game panel 8.11 is installed, the simulator crashes consistently.

Once I removed and uninstalled the in-game panel, MSFS 2024 ran smoothly with no crashes. I’m not entirely sure whether the problem lies solely with the panel itself or with the SimBrief flight plan integration, but the correlation is very clear — crashes occur only when the Navigraph in-game panel is present.

Interestingly, in MSFS 2020, everything works perfectly — same setup, same add-ons, no stability issues.
This issue seems to have emerged about a month to a month and a half ago, when CTDs started appearing more frequently.

I’ve already contacted Microsoft, and they directed me to reach out to Navigraph.
Could you please investigate this? I’m happy to provide crash logs or additional diagnostic info if needed.

Thanks for your help!

As there are no other reports, it is likely an issue on your machine.

Are you running MSFS 2024 SU3 or SU4?

Please look at what changed 4-6 weeks ago - maybe a Windows Update, AV update, new graphics drivers, installation of new software, etc

Consider reversing one of these?

Consider reverting to a Windows restore point?

Cheers

Ian

I’m running SU3 - 1.5.27.0

Yes there have been at least two nvidia drivers updates and two windows updates, but i’m not planning to rollback anything because all of the rest inc MSFS2020 works perfectly. The issue is really only on MSFS2024.

System Info attached.

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Please provide more information as to the CTD’s.

Does the sim crash when the panel is loaded? Immediately? When using the SimBrief integration?

Ian

The sim crashes “after a while”… generally after 15-20 minutes… in conjunction with these two things:

  • I load a flight plan with the simbrief integration
  • Navigraph in-game panel v8.11 is installed

What SimBrief integration specifically? In the Charts panel? In the SimBrief EFB app? In an aircraft?

It crashes with just any aircraft if the Navigraph in-game panel v8.11 app is installed.

Sorry, that does not answer my question. Would you mind providing me with a step-by-step procedure that causes a crash for you?

Also, please first remove everything except the Navigraph panel from your community folder.

Thank you for your patience!

Install MSFS 2024 SU3.
Install navigraph hub and all related app (airac, navigraph in game panel, simbrief EFB, …)
I have already tested with an empty community folder and found out that using any aircraft (from legacy cessna 172 to Fenix A320) if I have the Navigraph in-game panel v8.11 app installed, my system crashes after an apparently random amount of time but between 15 and 30 minutes.
Did I answer?

Almost :slight_smile:

So, do you agree that these steps would reproduce the issue if you did them?

  1. Uninstall MSFS2024 (ensure community folder is entirely removed/emptied)
  2. Install MSFS2024
  3. Install Navigraph Hub
  4. Through Navigraph Hub, install only the Navigraph Charts In-Game Panel
  5. Start the simulator
  6. Pick the Cessna 172 and choose LIRM for the departure airport
  7. Start the flight
  8. Do not touch anything (No panel open, just standing on the runway)
  9. Wait 15-30 minutes
  10. The simulator crashes

Rather than waiting, start a flight and fly around a little.

Without using the panel by clicking on it to open it?

The panel is not created at all until you interact with it. There is no way that it would cause a crash if it is not being used.

Did you try a simulator reinstallation?

I have tried many.
Never actually used the in-game panel.

You did mention that you loaded a flightplan using “the SimBrief integration”.

So, as far as I understand, that has nothing to do with the issue, then? You don’t need to do anything, just sit and wait, and it eventually crashes - with just the Navigraph panel (not EFB app) installed (closed, never opened) and nothing else?

This can’t be a Navigraph issue. If these steps had worked, the simulator would have crashed for a lot more people, myself included.

Did Microsoft help you with collecting a crash report from the simulator?

With the limited time that I can dedicate to troubleshooting, I first reached out to the MS team, shared all the required information, uninstalled, reinstalled, cleaned up the community folder and then re-added all of the needed integrations one by one until I found a crash, and that was in conjunction with Navigraph. Curiously enough on the same computer I have MS2020 with all of your addons installed and never had a problem with it.

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Are you on the beta or stable version of MSFS 2024?

Are you familiar with the process of collecting crash logs from the simulator (through Windows Event Viewer)?

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