Moving map support for X-Plane on Linux

Yes please add a linux version!

come on! we have year 2025 not 1995! this what you typed is the exact reason (managers excuses) why we are still forced to use windows! you developers having in hands that most people are glued to micro$oft even they would like to change the OS…
we can call it magic loop - developer say: ā€œonly few ppl using linux so i will not develop for anything else than windowsā€ and then users who thinking about change will realize that there are no alternative apps … so no possible change to the better world…

btw today there are many ways how you can develop OS independent software…

well i am on linux for about 20 years, i was dualbooting for FS/Prepar, but since X-Plane 10 i don’t need microsoft anymore even now with their crappy win11 AdSpyware os…

absence of trivial app like simlink was a big surprise to me. i don’t know how it looks like under windows, but i imagine that for linux it could be really trivial even non-gui app…

btw. @Ian Xplane 12 offering pretty nice web and websock API
you only need just to perform one http GET to fetch actual DataRef ids for the plane location, then register websocket for these datarefs and Xplane will serve you back data nicely in JSON format on the silver plate in 10Hz interval, so you can simply provide plane location via your closed protocol for Charts->simlink… i think that it should be done in one afternoon, just few hours… so no big investment in coder time/money as we can simply calc that min. 57 votes * 85 usd will cover it easy with finger in nose…

or just open your simlink protocol to the public and app will be another day alive …

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I have now cancelled my unlimited account. With the reason for this issue.
Is the AIRAC only payment available?

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Wow, seeing the responses from the staff regarding their stance on Linux kind of made my choice easier. Linux community is only going to grow based on the trends and the increase in the way MS treats Windows. I’m honestly surprised there are more more Mac users of flight sims than Linux users. As someone else said, just publish the protocol, or allow a dedicated linked account to use LittleNavMap, the functionality is already there.

I was debating if it was worth finally pulling the trigger for the full deal, I didn’t even care about Simlink, but the staff response here makes it easy for me. If I have to get a month here and there for AIRAC data because of the frankly monopolistic behavior at play, then I will, but I’m out of any further support until you are more open minded regarding Linux. I just watched a almost 2 hour video by Q8pilot and he went on and on about how open and compassionate the founders of Navigraph are, this seems like the complete opposite.

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We appreciate that Linux users are passionate about their chosen operating system.

We have a support regime admired by our users. We only wish to implement products which we can support ourselves. We constantly monitor the numbers of users for operating systems including Windows, Mac and Linux to determine the resources we need for high quality support. At this time the number of potential Linux users does not justify the extra support manpower for Moving Map for Linux.

We understand the desire, and we shall invest in this support when the potential numbers of Linux users makes it a good business investment.

Cheers
Ian

No offense and thank you for admitting that it’s an investment thing. Again, it’s impossible to determine users Navigraph would have on Linux without a supporting product, but I suppose Navigraph have other data sources. Your response does directly highlight the tone I was referring to in my previous comment and it’s a shame it has to be that way.

Navigraph does make an excellent product, and others want access to it. It’s unfortunate some compromise cannot be reached where the user base can grow instead of becoming more isolated.

While it makes perfect sense that a company like Navigraph wouldn’t want to use up valuable developer time to create a totally new version of their software to serve a niche (Linux users) within a niche (Navigraph users) within another niche (Flight Simulator fans), it should be noted that your number of Linux users is unlikely to grow before they’re able to use your programs to the fullest.

I understand you only wish to move forward with this when it becomes financially viable, that’s simply how companies operate, and training your staff to get familiar with Linux, or hiring Linux developers, would take a lot of time and money. I also understand your solution is proprietary, and I wouldn’t dream of asking you to open up the source code.

But I think a crucial point is being missed: people in this thread have suggested opening the protocol, or creating an API, to allow them to develop custom solutions. This way, you wouldn’t need to hire anyone, or divert existing developers towards making a Linux version of Simlink. We’re not asking you to, necessarily, make your software open source or create a totally new version yourselves. This would have the bonus of making community extensions to your software easier to develop even on other platforms, like Windows and MacOS.

X-Plane has an API developers are easily able to use, which allows us to create plugins and external applications that solve whatever little issues we might have with the vanilla simulator. We’re not asking you to dedicate your own valuable time towards building a solution, we’d just like to be able to use the software suite we pay for to its fullest, and providing us with a protocol or API would allow us to do just that.

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Came to add my vote and hope for future support. Thanks!

Debian user here! We really need simlink version for Linux!

I’m a loyal customer of Navigraph. I’ve been using it since I started flight simming. I’ve been using Linux as my daily driver OS for decades. I enjoy a fantastic flight sim experience because of Laminar’s dedication to their Linux customers. Just one thing is missing, integration of Navigraph’s moving maps. Please reconsider supporting your Linux customer base.

Hey Navigraph, we linux users need love too. How about a Simlink for us so we can enjoy what we’re paying for. Thanks :slight_smile:

Hi guys. With the last XP12 beta I was feeling frustrated in Windows so I decided to give Linux a try and I was a bit shocked that I got +5 fps, sometimes more. And very stable.
I doubt that the Navigraph people would do anything to be honest, you kinda can tell.

I run Linux for everything except P3Dv5 and the very occasional visit to MSOffice.

I do not know how you can estimate the number of Linux users there are when your software is designed for Windows. How else can we access your products?

So, please think again. Linux is the way to go.

Another request for Navigraph Charts/Simlink for Linux please. As an ex-windows user, this is desperately missing for Linux x-plane users.

Hello Navigraph,

Please give Linux a chance! The X-Plane Linux community is growing. As a VFR pilot, I miss your SimLink plugin.

Most of us Linux users are using Navigraph through LittleNavMap’s Linux client and it works OK. At the moment, some applications Navigraph provides work under Wine which some have called emulation but is actually a compatibility layer that provides so little overhead to the system that it still runs more efficiently than natively on Windows in most cases.

I still would push for Linux support even if it might not initially make a lot of commercial sense. The userbase in this operating system is growing especially due to the ease of transition compared to prior years, and things like electron that make implementation almost trivial on the development end.

Edit: I’d like to add for any Linux users seeing this post, please make sure you use a browser that properly sends user agent data about your operating system. This way, statistics can reflect just how many of us there actually are.

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