Missing SIDs from bottom pinboard

Charts General
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Hi,

In the last day or so, I have noticed that when planning a new route in Charts, the SID tab is missing even though the departure airport and SID have been selected. This only affects the SID whereas the STAR and Approach tabs do automatically get added and appear on the pinboard at the bottom once they have been selected.

This problem appears in both Cloud and Windows Chart apps.

An example is the following:

  1. Select WMKK as the departure airport. (Airport tab appears as expected)
  2. Select YPPH as the destination airport. (Airport tab appears as expected)
  3. Select Autoroute
  4. Select Runway 14R for WMMK and the MOTO1B SID (SID tab does not get added automatically to pinboard)
  5. Select Runway 21 for YPPH
  6. Select the STAR JULI8A and a RNAV approach (STAR and Approach tabs are automatically displayed)

Attached are 2 screenshots showing the same procedure. One is for Cloud Charts and the other is the Windows Chart app. Both exhibit the same behaviour of the missing SID not being automatically added to the pinboard as they normally should.

Workaround: Manual selection/pinning of the departure and arrival charts works and tabs appear in the pinboard.

Currently running Windows 11 Pro 25H2.

Cloud charts version: 8.45.0

Windows charts app: 8.45.0

I am also seeing the same behavior running the Charts app from a Android tablet.

Can someone help verify if they see the same issue please with the missing SID tabs?

Missing SID on strip Cloud app
Missing SID on strip Cloud app1920×803 292 KB

Missing SID on strip Win app
Missing SID on strip Win app1920×803 378 KB

This problem was observed yesterday when flying from VIDP-VTBS and again today when flying the above route.

Thanks
Mark

2

I confirm the behaviour. It seems to be WMKK-specific. We shall investigate.

In the meantime, you can use manual pinning.

Cheers

Ian

3

Thanks Ian.

Can you also check VIDP as I saw the same problem with missing SIDs there too when departing?

4

I can see SID’s at VIDP being pinned automatically.

Cheers

Ian

5

OK, let me check once more. I definitely had 2 situations with different routes where the SID plates were not being pinned. Will come back to you shortly to confirm which ones they were.

6

Hi Ian,

Also try creating a route between VTBS and WMKK.

I see the same problem, in this case, the SID chart is not automatically added for VTBS however the STAR and Approach charts are added as expected for WMKK.

Cheers

Mark

7

FYI…

And another example as I was planning this flight tomorrow…

Try creating a flight between YPPH and YMML, autoroute then select rwy 03 and MEMUP5 SID.

Again SID chart is not automatically added but STAR and Approach charts are. This example tried on Android charts app.

8

Any update on the missing SIDs?

9

We’re still investigating, likely a fix will be made available at the next Charts app release.

10

Thanks for the update GordonNG.:+1: