I have passed straight stalls and dives many times, yet for some reason generate incompletes on the turning stalls despite completing them repeatedly with proper turn radius, coordination, stall recovery, with minimum loss of altitude. I see this has occurred with other participants as well. Would love to move on. Thanks.
@MeadowlarkLenin thanks for the feedback, weāre looking into this.
@MeadowlarkLenin We have reviewed the last 4 flights from lesson, non-straight stalls were not found on the last three flights. The 4th flight, the stalls section was failed due to the difference between the minimum and maximum altitude threshold.
Its recommended to revisit the video and lesson brief and give the lesson another shot.
gordonoc I understand that you are pilot in real life; so was I years ago until a car accident set a stop to my flying about 15 years ago. the lack of feeling of the movement i 3 D inside the cockpit is impossible for a simulator to replicate, triming and stall exersices are therefore more edifficult in the sim than in a real cockpit, My flightinstructor use to say if you can take off and land and walk out off the plane you passed, if new student pilot can take a setat in the cockpit you did things right.
Same with me very difficult to pass the stall lesson, for the same reasons ans you, lack of stall warning.
There is nothing we can do about the stall warning for now, MS/Asobo have been made aware of this on several fronts, not just from us but from the MSFS community also.
what probaly easlely can be done by navigraph is to slighjtly increase to tolerance for passing eg. the amount of altitude drop and other things that are checked as part or pass or fail
what probaly easely can be done by navigraph, is to slighjtly increase to tolerance for passing this lesson eg. slightly increase the amount of accepted altitude drop and other things that are checked as part or pass or fail
Weāll definitely keep these points in mind.
We have received confirmation from MS/Asobo that the broken stall horn has been addressed and fixed for MSFS2024 Sim Update 5.
Bear in mind, however, Sim Update 5 is in beta and as such, could introduce bugs in other areas of the sim.
Just a quick update about this:
Whats the meaning of incomplete?
In Lesson 5 I get several times this message for āTurning Stallā. If failed then we have the information but not for incomplete.
Hello,
So from what I can see, stalls are not being recorded, likely because the aircraft isnt actually stalled.
Give the lesson another try but be deliberate with the stall, enter into it and recover at the first sign of the stall condition.
I understand that there is a bug with MSFS2024 SU4 where the stall horn/warning is not audible, however this has been addressed with the new SU5 beta update. This will make it easier to identify and recover from the stall.
Thanks, Flight 38 and 39 was done in a proper way. I am flying with 2020. 68kts was stable in turn and the altitude ok. after smoothly rising and the first stall tone i have recovered with quick power and wing leveled. I thaught thats ok, perhaps failure but not again incomplete.
Try the lesson again but be smooth and deliberate with the controls.
This has been the most frustraring lessonof the course so far. I felt with my efforts the progress I made. But Iāve tried this one no less than 20 times on MSFS 2024 and still cantā get a satisfactory score. Mainly, not being able to measure G-gravity, the stall horn failing, and most of all, how can you do a turning stall with minimum loss of altitude, if the instruction say āstart a power-off descentāā¦ yes DESCENT. That is altitute loss! Iām going to try on MSFS2020 and see what happens, but my spirit is way down now.
So sorry you are feeling this lesson has issues and is generating frustration. Some feedback from us at Navigraph Academy:
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Weāve raised the stall horn issue as a bug with Asobo and can only hope they can fix it soon. It only occurs on MSFS2024 and it can be solved by going to the menu and back into the game after spawn.
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The G-force not being shown is something we understand is creating problems. I have been considering removing the G-force as a hard limit for the lesson, but still showing it for those of you who wish to try to score a perfect score. We will have an internal discsussion about this.
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The stall in a power-off descent is only calculated from the moment you hit the stall. The system will check your altitude at that point, and compare it with your loss of altitude in the subsequent recovery. You can descend non-stalled for as long as you want. The reason we ask you to enter a power-off descent first is since this makes the stall in a turn much easier to enter, as the aircraft is trimmed and stable in power-off descent. It is also the most real type of stall exercise, as in real life pilots train to break a stall in this low-speed/low-power/high-bank situation because it is the most dangerous, and is often encountered in the traffic pattern.
Please let us know how it goes in MSFS2020 and thank you for your feedback so far.
BR
Martin
Academy Ground Instructor
Thank you for your prompt reply Martin.
Itās good to know that you take only the altitude loss after the stall and itās the correct way to evaluate.
I tried with MSFS2020 with much better results. I passed the lesson but for some reason the portal says āLesson progressā and doesnāt let me continue to the next one.
Itās clear to me that I still need to practice on the turning stall which is my biggest challenge so far.
Best regards,
Javier Arana
Do you have any instructions on how to solve this problem? I still canāt continue to lesson 6 after I passed lesson 5.