Lesson 3: Level Flight & Turns

Hello,

I have removed the in progress lesson, can you check that you can take this lesson again?

Thanks,

Hi,

thanks a lot. Everything works now as it should be. Great and fast excellent support. Very kind and good job!

It very much depends on your setup, in my experience. We are using the Honeycomb combination at the office currently and to me that is very similiar to the experience of training to fly the Cessna in real life. Of course there is more tactile feedback in real life, but I have found I feel we’re 80% there in terms of realism.

I’ve spent many many hours reminding real life students to scan their nose attitude… over and over again. It is a constant struggle to maintain altitude and bank angle in a real plane, and often turbulence and convection in the atmosphere creates an even more challenging task. That said, simulators provide less visual feedback (there’s less pixels on a screen than cells in the retina after all) and the narrow range on most yokes and joysticks offer a greater challenge. But I still want to throw it out there that learning to fly manually is not something anyone does in an hour or two, but through a long period of constant trial and error. We have airline pilots to come to assessments who are definately not done with their muscle memory training. At some point it does become muscle memory, but it only gets there by long practice and by learning to use visual references for corrections.

I hope you find more fun in airliners, and we hope to get you back for the instrument and IFR course, where we’ll use the autopilot a lot more :slight_smile:

Thank you for your encouraging reply. I have continued to practice and will be back to take the test again when I think I can hold altitude and speed. Seems I have no problem with bank and coordination.

Hello people.

I just got news from Turtle beach for the situation I have mentioned above in this thread and this is what they said:

Hello Andre,

our developer responded:

"The inputs that are seen in the Training menu are hardwired to default profiles from MSFS 2020. Therefore, when you select Single Engine Propeller for example, in-game then also select via the Flight Management Display, the training menu will mirror the controls from that default profile.

This currently does not work or update for custom button mapping profiles that are made - so you will be unable to view which button does what on the display with your custom profile. Instead, we recommend creating a mapping chart to help with remembering what button does what."

If you require further assistance or additional information please do not hesitate in contacting me.

Sincerely / Viele Grüße
Sascha
Customer Support Agent
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André

Turtlebeach.com

Thats great you got in touch with Turtle Beach. We would recommend you follow their guidelines for setting up the keybinds/axis as their system would allow more flexibility with knowing which button/control does what.

Hello man!

I was also confused by the turbulence, since on the loading screen of the lesson it written that wind is 4 knots. So tou are not alone.

I write separate topic regarding this but maybe you also gad somethibg similar: the issue is that even after I trim my airplane for straight and level flight my altitude everytime staring to increase and then decrease and so on. It may vary from -400 to + 500 feets per minute.

I am not sure what I am doing wrong?

The lesson instructs to use right rudder to counteract slipstream effect in the climb. However, I seem to need airleron to maintain a level wings level. Can you advise further?

I’m giving up flight sim because of this.

I used to enjoy just setting a course and letting autopilot handle things, but since trying to learn how to hand fly properly, I realise that it’s completely impossible.

Even with expensive honeycomb gear the same as Navigraph are using, I can not maintain level flight at all. Even with only 5 knot winds, the plane is going up and down like a yoyo.

Same thing during turns. The rudder and ailerons are just about controllable, but using elevator, power and trim to try and maintain steady altitude is literally impossible.

Even if I manage to hold the perfect angle, after maybe 0.5-1 seconds, the plane will either be climbing or descending at 500 feet or more.

I’ve spent so much time and money trying to enjoy this hobby, but I finally realise that I’m actually useless at it.

It can’t be the sim, as there are thousands of people happily flying with it every day, which means it must just be me. Obviously I have no ability to fly, so I give up now.