Hello,
today I planned a fly from LFMN to UBBB. The plan is
(FPL-OSE110-IS
-A321/M-SDE3FGHIRWY/LB1
-LFMN0900
-N0450F350 BASIP6A BASIP Y15 ABN Z388 IXITO DCT NIKOL DCT SONIK DCT DAROJ DCT VELIP DCT TALAM M747 SOBLO B143 IDLER DCT DISKA M737 VERCA M747 SUBUT T923 ERLEV ERLEV1G
-UBBB0435 UGTB
-PBN/A1B1C1D1O1S1 DOF/210406 REG/N321SB RMK/TCAS)
Eurocontrol IFPV reports
PROF194: TALAM M747 SOBLO IS NOT AVAILABLE IN FL RANGE F195…F660
PROF204: RS: TRAFFIC VIA IFPZ IS ON FORBIDDEN ROUTE REF:[EUIFPS002A] AIRCRAFT REG IS REQUIRED
The second error may be orrected adding REG/ in OTHER INFORMATION. The first is mysterious to me as Ukraine AIP (retrieved vie EAD Basic) reports
Using the route in Simbrief with updated airac causes the error
Error: Airway “M747” uses invalid endpoints.
The error is not consistenf with IFPV one. Moreover, the other branch of M747 is in Azerbaigian. AIP reports
so endpoints in Azerbaigian are correct and IFPV does not complain about them.
Can you explain me the (Navigraph) issue? Thanks
Guido
P.S.: I use XP11.53. I didn’t try to program the route in, for instance, ToLiss A319 to check if the error comes out as well. I will perform a quick test tomorrow and report the result.
Programming the route into ToLIss A319 FMC (which uses data in Custom dato folder) results in
Inserting airway waypoints one by one solves the problem and the route can be fully programmed untill destinations. I just wanted to point out this small glitch of the data base so you can correct it in future airac releases.
Thanks
Due to the security issues planning through UKFV is restricted.
By NOTAM M747 is not plannable, for this reason the segment may have been removed by Jeppesen and not included in NG data. The Simbrief route is incorrect:
THE FOLLOWING ATS ROUTE SEGMENTS ARE NOT FLIGHT PLANNABLE
WITHIN SIMFEROPOL’ FIR AND UTA ODESA-SOUTH AND UTA DNIPRO-SOUTH:
FM 1500M AMSL UP TO FL285
L851 ADINA-KUGOS M435 LAROM-RASIL
M854 RASIL-SUMOL M856 DIGAM-RAKUR
M860 DIGAM-KUGOS M861 BIRMA-RAKUR
Thanks a lot for the explanation! This justifies also for the IFPV validation error. My bad I didn’t think to a temporary change implemented via AIC. I’ll update the flight plan accordingly.
Thanks again
