Flight Plan Airport Approaches

SimBrief is a great tool, but I do not see a way to add approaches to the airport. SIDs and STARs yes but where are the Approach options?

Can someone help please

I would like to be able to import a full flight plan including airport the approach from Navigraph into SimBrief.

SimBrief is missing an important element of the planning as it does not include airport approaches.
I realize the airport approach can be created in Navigraph and also can be added into your Navigation radio (GPS, FMS, etc.).
But the one issue I have found is that when you are using SayIntentions for ATC - the SimBrief flight plan gets filed directly to SayIntentions and if there is no airport Approach SayIntentions will miss that important link.

Hello, as per real DX procedures, approaches are not included in the OFP. Expected runways are but that is not part of the actual flight plan. PAJN JNU6 LVD..YJQ..VIXOR MARNR8 KSEA In the case above, the flight plan ends after MARNR8. The reason for this is a massive swing in runway operations from one hour to the next in some locations. Having said this, SimBrief will calculate the burn for an approach and a missed depending on your fuel settings.

Thank you, what you say makes sense and is correct.

However, it is not uncommon for a pilot to pre plan by entering in the approach but obviously not activating it knowing full well that it could change.

I just thought it would be helpful to have it entered but not activated.

Some flight planning systems will add something however. Let’s say I am planning on using KNQA Runway 4 as an alternate for KMEM. These systems will “fly” to the IAF for an approach to NQA, then give me at least the lateral path for the approach to the lowest mins from the IAF to the FAF.

Let’s say I want to land KNQA Rwy 4 from the RYBRN fix, which is the IAF. The system will plan a direct or an airway to RYBRN, in this case a direct for all I have in the route db is RYBRN, then grab the fixes along the approach transition from RYBRN to the FAF. In this navlog snippet, notice *RYBRN, it then grabbed the ILS 4, RYBRN transition, and all the fixes along it - FAXIP, YEGUG, and CUXIP.

If there are several flavors of the approach, the X, Y and Z, it’ll grab the one with the longest distance.

A lot more realistic than using great circle direct. In this example I got 83 miles at 3000’, which is not an insignificant amount of fuel. As some operational fuel rules require me to use a realistic routing to the fuel alternate (like B343) - this fills that square.

BUT, even they are not part of the OFP, its useless and on VATSIM sometimes problematic when an Airport NEVER makes use of the STAR and only take the Transitions: Best example: EDDM … There should be something to ‘pre-plan’ such Airports

EDDM only uses BETOS 08/26 , NAPSA 08/26, ROKIL 08/26, LANDU 08/26 … never saw someone got “classic” STARS assigned.

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