Loading of Navigation Data failed. In settings of FMS Data Manager I checked for the correct path to the nav data folder in “custom data”. It works for a second install of X-Plane 12 and it works for X-Plane 11, but not the main install. Before the latest cycle update it also worked for my main X-Plane 12 install.
Hi,
as the message mentioned - you are using the wrong XP dataset. Is it correct, that you have installed the XP12 beta?
Please post screenshots where we see the exact path and which dataset you are using. One from the setting page, and one for the mapping page of the FMS Data Manager please.
Please be aware, we don’t support multiple installed XP12 versions (ie. beta and the official one)
Thank you
Richard
Hello Richard,
thanks for replying,
below I included some screenshots of how NavData is installed on my system.
There is another install for X-Plane 12 that I use for betas that I had the FMS data manager pointed to in the settings initially, before reverting the path to my main install as shown in the screenshot below. I am not getting the error message on the recently second install for Beta testing.
I will erase the custom data folder in X-Plane and reinstall it from the program disks and then try to update the airac navdata cycle.
I am not sure what you mean by we don’t support multiple installed XP12 versions.
Best regards
Volker
Volker Kusserow
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Hi Volker,
please, I need the “Addon Mappings” screenshot too … because only in this screenshot I see, if you have manually added XP12 or if the FMS Data Manager has automatically found it. Your “custom data” folder is a really mess.
Exactly what you have written is unsupported. You have two X-Plane 12 installations on different locations and you “only” switch the path in the FMS Data Manager. That´s not supported …
Cheers,
Richard
Hello Richard,
I think you are referring to this:
When you say my custom data folder is a mess, I am wondering in what way?
Which items don’t look right?
It has been working pretty well all along.
Best regards
Volker Kusserow
Rosenstr. 41
65719 Hofheim
Tel. +49 (0)6192-3369
Tel. +49 (0)6192-309643
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E-Mail: avokus@t-online.de
Hi,
please can you open the earth_fix.dat file in an editor and can you post the first two header lines from this file?
I assume, you overwrite the XP12 files with any other addon in the list - as an example the “Modern UFMC” is mapped to exactly the same folder as XP12 but UFMC uses the XP10 data-format. So you “overwrite” the XP12 files with the older UFMC files.
My assumption is, that you have following header in the earth_fix.dat file:
I
600 Version - AIRAC Cycle 2405 Rev. 1, parsed on 20240504, Data provided by Navigraph - www.navigraph.com - Source data copyright (c) 2024 Jeppesen - This data may be used for ground based recreational computer game simulation software only, and may not be recompiled, interpreted, or distributed for any purpose without the written consent of Navigraph. The contents of this database is dated and must not be used for real world navigation as it is unlawful and unsafe to do so.
… so version 600 - which is needed for the UFMC but incompatible with XP12, and therefore the error message “Wrong or old file format, 1101 or 1200 Version is required”
This is the correct header, what we have in our XP12 files:
I
1200 Version - data cycle 2405, build 20240504, metadata FixXP1200. Copyright (c) 2024 Navigraph, Datasource Jeppesen
The main problem is not our data - the main problems are your manual mappings. When you map something manually, than you need to know exactly in which folder the files should be stored. In the Modern UFMC case it is NOT! the custom data folder only, it´s the custom data\UFMC folder.
I´m pretty sure, that UFMC hadn´t worked before (at least not with the current AIRAC) but thats another topic. Due the fact that I can´t see all mappings, I can´t say if this is the only culprit here …
Re-map the “Modern UFMC” into custom data\UFMC and update the XP12 dataset again. When it´s done and this is the only mistake, XP12 should start normally …
Why it´s a mess? The navdata folder is not correct, the nav-data folder also … you have several index-file in the custom data folder which indicates normally, that you have mapped directly in this folder, …
Cheers,
Richard
Okay, now I understand. But how do you change the mapping from manual to automatic?
Here are the first lines of the earth_fix.dat file
"I
1200 Version - data cycle 2405, build 20240504, metadata FixXP1200. Copyright (c) 2024 Navigraph, Datasource Jeppesen“
Best regards
Volker Kusserow
Rosenstr. 41
65719 Hofheim
Tel. +49 (0)6192-3369
Tel. +49 (0)6192-309643
Mobil: +49 (0)179-1047424
E-Mail: avokus@t-online.de
Volker, is this line now after you have re-mapped UFMC and re-installed the XP12 dataset? I asked because when this is really the line, the error message it´s wrong and you should contact Laminar Research …
The message at your initial posting said exactly:
So, that means the header of the earth_fix.dat file must be something with 600 Version and NOT as in your last post 1200 Version - because when it would be 1200, you would not get this message.
So please confirm, that you can start XP12 now without any problems … possible, I misunderstood your last message.
Thank you very much,
Richard
Hello Richard,
I offloaded the fms data manager and reinstalled it. That seemed to have done the trick. I am no longer getting the advisory about failed navigational data.
However it still said manual for X-Plane 12, when I looked yesterday. Miraculously it now doesn’t anymore. It says 2405 rev 1.
Volker Kusserow
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65719 Hofheim
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Tel. +49 (0)6192-309643
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E-Mail: avokus@t-online.de
Hello Richard,
maybe you can give me advice on using the moving map functionality.
I have downloaded the navigraph simlink app and registered with it and allowed access on the mac. However the aircraft is not showing up on map.
Volker Kusserow
Rosenstr. 41
65719 Hofheim
Tel. +49 (0)6192-3369
Tel. +49 (0)6192-309643
Mobil: +49 (0)179-1047424
E-Mail: avokus@t-online.de
Hello Richard,
now that I got my main install of X-Plane 12 working again with the latest airac cycle, I unfortunately cannot start my X-plane 12 beta install due to navigraph. I don’t understand the policy when at the same time Navigraph allows the airac cycles to be installed in X-Plane 11 and even older legacy versions or even other sims altogether.
I had to delete all custom data in order to run X-Plane 12 Beta but with the consequence of not having any navigation data at all.
If Navigraph decides to stick to this strange policy then it should at least offer an uninstall functionality that leaves any previous Laminar cycles or outdated but purchased navigation data in tact.
Not having any nav data seriously hampers the Beta testing process for me.
Best regards
Volker Kusserow
Rosenstr. 41
65719 Hofheim
Tel. +49 (0)6192-3369
Tel. +49 (0)6192-309643
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Volker,
I never ever had written something about a policy. What I have written is, that we don’t support multiple XP12 installations on one PC (means ie. the normal and beta). You can install multiple X-Plane versions, version 10, 11 and/or 12 (including beta) and you can install the AIRAC cycles when you exactly know what you do, because as I have written: the FMS Data Manager doesn’t support it (so you can’t install the cycles on multiple installions via the FMS Data Manager).
That is, what I have written - there is no policy and you can install the data wherever you want, but we don’t support it
Cheers
Richard
Richard,
so you are saying airac cycles can be installed on multiple versions of X-Plane 12 including betas (if one knows how to do it), but not through the FMS Data Manager?
Please clarify and if so, how can it be done?
Regards
Volker Kusserow
Rosenstr. 41
65719 Hofheim
Tel. +49 (0)6192-3369
Tel. +49 (0)6192-309643
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E-Mail: avokus@t-online.de
Correct, you can download the manual installer and than you can move/copy the files into the correct paths of your multiple installations manually.
Cheers
Richard
I wasn‘t aware of different installers. Can you please point me to the manual installer?
Thanks
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Directly from our homepage - scroll down to the manual downloads:
Cheers
Richard
I should have known before I again messed up my current main install, because I was confused by this screen, where one can choose a manual install pointing to a different path than what is entered in the settings menue. So it can definitely be ruled out that these „manual“ buttons can be utilised for mapping an install directory.
What is the proper way to get rid of the tainted folders holding the wrong nav data info. Delete them manually or will the data manager handle things automatically.
I have an additional question about the MD-11 where the FMS Data Manager adds a folder in the folder Aircraft of X-Plane as well as in the MD-11 aircraft folder. Is this the way it is supposed to be.
Volker Kusserow
Rosenstr. 41
65719 Hofheim
Tel. +49 (0)6192-3369
Tel. +49 (0)6192-309643
Mobil: +49 (0)179-1047424
E-Mail: avokus@t-online.de
Thank you,
I managed to install the manual download nav data sets into my beta installation for X-Plane 12.
I have a question about some of the other data sets I did not install as they contain the same file names but are geared to different aircraft.
Installing them one by one would overwrite the same files, so I am not sure how that is handled propperly, or is it save to include them and the same name files being overwritten. I don’t want to create a „mess" again.
Cheers.
Volker Kusserow
Rosenstr. 41
65719 Hofheim
Tel. +49 (0)6192-3369
Tel. +49 (0)6192-309643
Mobil: +49 (0)179-1047424
E-Mail: avokus@t-online.de
Every addon has his own dataset. Some share the dataset. So it is important to know, which dataset the addon is using and where the location of the dataset is.
When you do all correctly, no dataset will overwrite another. When you install the addons according to the developer’s instruction you will find the right location.
Cheers
Richard
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