# Where does all that gas go?

**URL:** <https://forum.navigraph.com/t/where-does-all-that-gas-go/24098>\
**Category:** Navigraph Hub\
**Created:** [August 15, 2026, 10:14pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/where-does-all-that-gas-go/24098 "2026-08-15T22:14:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![Foxtrot7975](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/foxtrot7975/32/30022_2.png) [@Foxtrot7975](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Foxtrot7975)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2026, 10:14pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/where-does-all-that-gas-go/24098/1 "2026-08-15T22:14:44Z")

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All was fine when I retired last night.

However, this AM I find I have no volume with MSFS 2024 OR NAVIGRAPH. Only these two programs are affected. I am completely baffled as to how this could occur. I would be grateful for any thoughts to get me going again.

Kindly,

Foxtrot7975

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**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2026, 5:19am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/where-does-all-that-gas-go/24098/2 "2026-08-16T05:19:14Z")

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Hi,  
It seems you have issues (possibly hardware-related) on your system. I would recommend checking the hardware, especially your hard drives.

Possible that you have a faulty disc.

Sorry for the bad news, and good luck with fixing it.

Cheers  
Richard

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**Author:** ![Foxtrot7975](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/foxtrot7975/32/30022_2.png) [@Foxtrot7975](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Foxtrot7975)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2026, 5:20pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/where-does-all-that-gas-go/24098/3 "2026-08-17T17:20:26Z")

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I am confused as to why I would just lose volume in MSFS 2024 and Navigraph if it was due to HD issue. All other programs have normal volume. I have checked my HD with scan disk, DISM, chkdsk and all is fine. No corrupted files.  
In addition, in my research I have discovered that this is an issue that happens from time to time. It first occurred after MS downloaded it’s last update.

I guess I will start by uninstalling Navigraph. I don’t know what else to do. Thank you kindly for your input.

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**Author:** ![Foxtrot7975](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/foxtrot7975/32/30022_2.png) [@Foxtrot7975](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Foxtrot7975)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2026, 5:30pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/where-does-all-that-gas-go/24098/4 "2026-08-17T17:30:03Z")

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One last thing…why does the hub tell me to “REMOVE” the Navigraph Academy Lessons v. 2.0?

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**Author:** ![Rodeo314](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/rodeo314/32/103_2.png) [@Rodeo314](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Rodeo314)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2026, 5:50pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/where-does-all-that-gas-go/24098/5 "2026-08-17T17:50:39Z")

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The Hub can be used to:

- Install packages
- Update packages
- Un-install (remove) packages

When a specific package is not installed, the button shows _Install_, letting you install it (by clicking the button); when it is installed but out of date, it shows _Update_ so you can update it to the latest version (by clicking the button); when it is installed and up-to-date, the button shows _Remove_ so that you may un-install it should you wish to do so (by clicking the button).

Regards,

Tim

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**Author:** ![Foxtrot7975](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/foxtrot7975/32/30022_2.png) [@Foxtrot7975](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Foxtrot7975)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2026, 5:57pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/where-does-all-that-gas-go/24098/6 "2026-08-17T17:57:13Z")

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So, I hit REMOVE…for 2 sec it turns yellow saying “installing” and then whoosh, it’s gone and it comes back to “REMOVE”. I’m sorry I’m an old newbie but this makes no sense. After I reboot nothing has changed. Do you agree I should proceed with uninstall/reinstall? I feel totally lost. I really appreciate your comments.

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**Author:** ![Rodeo314](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/rodeo314/32/103_2.png) [@Rodeo314](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Rodeo314)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2026, 6:27pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/where-does-all-that-gas-go/24098/7 "2026-08-17T18:27:32Z")

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I’m not sure. Are you able to do a screen recording showing what’s happening?

Regards,

Tim

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**Author:** ![Foxtrot7975](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/foxtrot7975/32/30022_2.png) [@Foxtrot7975](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Foxtrot7975)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2026, 6:41pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/where-does-all-that-gas-go/24098/8 "2026-08-17T18:41:19Z")

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I will try my best. It may take me a little time to figure it out.

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**Author:** ![Foxtrot7975](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/foxtrot7975/32/30022_2.png) [@Foxtrot7975](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Foxtrot7975)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2026, 7:11pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/where-does-all-that-gas-go/24098/9 "2026-08-17T19:11:56Z")

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**Author:** ![Rodeo314](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/rodeo314/32/103_2.png) [@Rodeo314](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Rodeo314)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2026, 7:22pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/where-does-all-that-gas-go/24098/10 "2026-08-17T19:22:32Z")

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In this video, the package is not installed.

You click Install → button label switches to Installing while the package is being installed, then it switches to Remove which means the package is installed and up-to-date.

Then you clicked Remove, the package was un-installed, and the button label switched to Install to reflect that the package is no longer installed.

Regards,

Tim

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**Author:** ![Foxtrot7975](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/foxtrot7975/32/30022_2.png) [@Foxtrot7975](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Foxtrot7975)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2026, 7:34pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/where-does-all-that-gas-go/24098/11 "2026-08-17T19:34:28Z")

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Thank you Tim…I am grateful for you and your guidance.

So, as I understand it I need to hit Remove and hope that Install stays long enough to select it. When it reverts to Remove I just ignore it…if this is correct you need not reply. I’ve used too much of your time already.

In appreciation,

Dr. Frank

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**Author:** ![Rodeo314](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/rodeo314/32/103_2.png) [@Rodeo314](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Rodeo314)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2026, 8:23pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/where-does-all-that-gas-go/24098/12 "2026-08-17T20:23:57Z")

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Nope, that doesn’t make any sense. What are you trying to do: install a package or remove a package? You can’t want to do both, they’re opposites.

Regards,

Tim

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**Author:** ![Foxtrot7975](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/foxtrot7975/32/30022_2.png) [@Foxtrot7975](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Foxtrot7975)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2026, 8:56pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/where-does-all-that-gas-go/24098/13 "2026-08-17T20:56:29Z")

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I’m sorry, _as soon as I open_ the hub the LESSONS tab is set to **REMOVE in red**. What am I supposed to think. I don’t know how to get it to say INSTALL? I don’t even know what the hub does. Thank you for trying to be of help to me.

I apologize that I have become such a nuisance to you. I’ll figure it out somehow.

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**Author:** ![system](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/1X/4cc83e90d70ab312b1bd2d7527bddad309607265.png) [@system](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2026, 8:57pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/where-does-all-that-gas-go/24098/14 "2026-08-19T20:57:29Z")

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