# Unable to open MSFS flightplan .PLN **URL:** \ **Category:** General MSFS Data\ **Created:** [June 22, 2021, 12:09pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/unable-to-open-msfs-flightplan-pln/5378 "2021-06-22T12:09:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![laudey1](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/laudey1/32/4032_2.png) [@laudey1](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/laudey1)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 12:09pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/unable-to-open-msfs-flightplan-pln/5378/1 "2021-06-22T12:09:12Z")
it worked before the last release rev 2. But now we get a message “unable to open this file format” Can you revert your update please ? it missed your program … ---
**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 12:17pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/unable-to-open-msfs-flightplan-pln/5378/2 "2021-06-22T12:17:08Z")
Hi, a little bit more details could be helpful … where do you get these message, in the sim or where? From where are the PLN-files? Can you upload such file please? Thank you Richard ---
**Author:** ![laudey1](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/laudey1/32/4032_2.png) [@laudey1](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/laudey1)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 1:06pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/unable-to-open-msfs-flightplan-pln/5378/3 "2021-06-22T13:06:23Z")
Hi Richard, I got the message in Navigraph charts Window, opened on a second screen. MSFS comes from Microsoft Store. The .PLN is in the …/LocalState directory, in User/Appdata/Local/Packages/Microsoftflight…/LocalState. the .PLN is loaded normally by MSFS and , when loaded, appears in the Main map window of the simulator. in the MSFS .PLN file, there are lines :-1 which do not exist in a file that I created on purpose with Navigraph Charts (manual input …). If this can help … ---
**Author:** ![laudey1](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/laudey1/32/4032_2.png) [@laudey1](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/laudey1)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 1:07pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/unable-to-open-msfs-flightplan-pln/5378/4 "2021-06-22T13:07:50Z")
> [@laudey1](#): > > -1 sorry text has been eaten … lines that appear : “-1” ---
**Author:** ![laudey1](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/laudey1/32/4032_2.png) [@laudey1](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/laudey1)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 1:09pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/unable-to-open-msfs-flightplan-pln/5378/5 "2021-06-22T13:09:56Z")
> [@laudey1](#): > > -1 Text does not appear in the message, let’s try something else: SpeedMaxFPSignsup-1Signinf/SpeedMaxFP ---
**Author:** ![laudey1](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/laudey1/32/4032_2.png) [@laudey1](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/laudey1)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 1:28pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/unable-to-open-msfs-flightplan-pln/5378/6 "2021-06-22T13:28:05Z")
it seems that your new format does not accept waypoints which are defined through their geographic coordinates. It was not a problem yesterday, as the .PLN was loaded in Navigraph Charts ---
**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 1:41pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/unable-to-open-msfs-flightplan-pln/5378/7 "2021-06-22T13:41:26Z")
So, that I don´t understood you wrong: You have created the PLN file in the MSFS and you want to import it in the charts, where you get these message - is this correct? Please can you upload the PLN-file here Thank you, Richard ---
**Author:** ![laudey1](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/laudey1/32/4032_2.png) [@laudey1](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/laudey1)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 1:59pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/unable-to-open-msfs-flightplan-pln/5378/8 "2021-06-22T13:59:52Z")
Exactly. And first, Thank you for your help … [Visite-FranceA.PLN](https://forum.navigraph.com/uploads/short-url/r8AGV2cMmZz7hMZe2G7Y70qTWzi.PLN) (25.4 KB) That’s the plan ---
**Author:** ![skysail](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/skysail/32/304_2.png) [@skysail](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/skysail)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 11:46am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/unable-to-open-msfs-flightplan-pln/5378/9 "2021-06-23T11:46:43Z")
Hello Philippe! Importing `.pln` files exported from MSFS is currently not possible. The supported `.pln` format comes from P3D/FSX. That said, we are currently actively working on making it possible to import from MSFS as well, and the update should be available within a few days! Kind Regards, Malte ---
**Author:** ![laudey1](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/laudey1/32/4032_2.png) [@laudey1](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/laudey1)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 12:19pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/unable-to-open-msfs-flightplan-pln/5378/10 "2021-06-23T12:19:24Z")
That is a great news, thank you Malte. On another end, you have surely noticed that a flightplan coming from Simbrief and imported in Navigraph, is modified without our permission in MSFS, if we change the origin from the active runway into a parking place, in order to start in a Cold and Dark situation. Most of the time, the route is shortened, suppressing several waypoints, but can also be totally changed. Then all fuel previsions are totally wrong, and the use of Simbrief planning is not useful anymore. Then, it could be great to be able to import the MSFS flightplan into Simbrief, in order to repair it, which is not possible yet so far I know … ---
**Author:** ![skysail](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/skysail/32/304_2.png) [@skysail](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/skysail)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 12:24pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/unable-to-open-msfs-flightplan-pln/5378/11 "2021-06-23T12:24:49Z")
Yes, we are aware of this and unfortunately there is nothing we can do about it. This is because the simulator automatically re-calculates **the whole route** as soon as you change any of its parameters in the world map. Please see these posts for further reference: > [@16. Export Flight Plans from Navigraph Charts to Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/16-export-flight-plans-from-navigraph-charts-to-microsoft-flight-simulator-2020/106): > > [@Problems with flightplans](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/problems-with-flightplans/4270/2): > > Hello Michel! Welcome to the forum. How are you loading the flightplan into MSFS2020? If you’re exporting the file from Navigraph Charts to the simulator using a .pln file, you need to make sure not to change any parameters once the flightplan has been loaded. This includes changing the approach/runway, gate, etc through the planning interface inside the simulator. The reason for this is that the simulator automatically re-calculates the whole route using its own route calculator upon any chan… Kind Regards, Malte ---
**Author:** ![laudey1](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/laudey1/32/4032_2.png) [@laudey1](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/laudey1)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 12:53pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/unable-to-open-msfs-flightplan-pln/5378/12 "2021-06-23T12:53:54Z")
A workaround could be to have the Start Gate or Parking indicated in Simbrief’s flightplan creation, as soon as Asobo gives realist gates and parkings, which are all completely fantasist at this time. That needs a database of the real Airport Gates and Parking, related to the fantasist database of Gates and Parkings in MSFS … Perhaps they could give you that database … 😉 ---
**Author:** ![skysail](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/skysail/32/304_2.png) [@skysail](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/skysail)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 5:58pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/unable-to-open-msfs-flightplan-pln/5378/13 "2021-06-23T17:58:22Z")
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**Author:** ![skysail](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/skysail/32/304_2.png) [@skysail](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/skysail)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2021, 2:45pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/unable-to-open-msfs-flightplan-pln/5378/15 "2021-07-07T14:45:14Z")
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**Author:** ![skysail](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/skysail/32/304_2.png) [@skysail](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/skysail)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2021, 2:47pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/unable-to-open-msfs-flightplan-pln/5378/16 "2021-07-07T14:47:09Z")
Hello again Philippe! I have some great news. The latest version of Charts (which was published just now) makes it possible to import `.pln` files that have been generated in the simulator. Enjoy! Kind Regards, Malte ---
**Author:** ![laudey1](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/laudey1/32/4032_2.png) [@laudey1](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/laudey1)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2021, 4:12pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/unable-to-open-msfs-flightplan-pln/5378/17 "2021-07-07T16:12:28Z")
Hi Malte, Great news !!! I will try it immediatly. Thank you for your reactivity ! Salutations Cordiales ![DD92E42CAC1544C98314466872B94A42.png](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/1X/7159a975d714a6caee787759490140daf4d4fda6.png) ---
**Author:** ![laudey1](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/laudey1/32/4032_2.png) [@laudey1](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/laudey1)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2021, 12:17pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/unable-to-open-msfs-flightplan-pln/5378/18 "2021-07-09T12:17:01Z")
And it works like a charm, Thank you again **Salutations cordiales** **Laudey1** ![image001.jpg](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/2/2485d26919316b1d80aa60f5ca8e2cb5bc0275fe.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 6:05am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/unable-to-open-msfs-flightplan-pln/5378/19 "2021-07-10T06:05:53Z")