# Simbrief sid and star

**URL:** <https://forum.navigraph.com/t/simbrief-sid-and-star/21603>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [November 30, 2025, 4:58pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/simbrief-sid-and-star/21603 "2025-11-30T16:58:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![mobbe123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/67e7ee/32.png) [@mobbe123](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/mobbe123)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2025, 4:58pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/simbrief-sid-and-star/21603/1 "2025-11-30T16:58:06Z")

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I did a flight plan with simbrief (CYYC RW 17L to KSEA RW 16R), In simbrief under “route calculator” It showed no sid for CYYC. But in ”navigraph charts” it showed 4 sids available.

I’m a little confuse here. Why simbrief didn’t give a choice for sid?

Thanks

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**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2025, 5:54pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/simbrief-sid-and-star/21603/2 "2025-11-30T17:54:45Z")

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When you look at the charts, you will see that ALL Sids are vector departure, so without any “endpoint”.

That’s the reason why a route calculator can’t use these SIDs.

Cheers  
Richard

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**Author:** ![system](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/1X/4cc83e90d70ab312b1bd2d7527bddad309607265.png) [@system](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 5:55pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/simbrief-sid-and-star/21603/3 "2025-12-07T17:55:35Z")

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