# 'Save as default' - Min ceiling **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature Requests\ **Created:** [December 12, 2025, 9:44am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/save-as-default-min-ceiling/21795 "2025-12-12T09:44:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Martin\_Neep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/97f17d/32.png) [@Martin\_Neep](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Martin_Neep)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 9:44am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/save-as-default-min-ceiling/21795/1 "2025-12-12T09:44:47Z")
Why is it possible to set a default min visibility for potential alternates, but the min ceiling always defaults to 600ft and can’t be saved? ---
**Author:** ![SimBrief](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/simbrief/32/4850_2.png) [@SimBrief](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/SimBrief)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 7:19pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/save-as-default-min-ceiling/21795/2 "2025-12-13T19:19:49Z")
Hi, the save icons only save the units of the min runway/visibility. There is no save button for the ceiling since the units are not selectable. To save a default ceiling/visibility value, for now you can only set this in the airframe options. Best regards, ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Neep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/97f17d/32.png) [@Martin\_Neep](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Martin_Neep)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 8:14pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/save-as-default-min-ceiling/21795/3 "2025-12-13T20:14:24Z")
I can’t see any alternate planning parameters under the airframe options. ---
**Author:** ![SimBrief](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/simbrief/32/4850_2.png) [@SimBrief](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/SimBrief)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 9:38pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/save-as-default-min-ceiling/21795/4 "2025-12-13T21:38:45Z")
Hi, the options are in the custom airframe options, when you create or edit an airframe in the [Saved Airframes](https://dev.dispatch.devibrief.com/airframes) section. I realize it doesn’t do 100% what you’re asking, but it’s a workaround for now. Also don’t forget to vote for your feature request, as this is how we gauge interest and prioritize updates. Best regards, ---
**Author:** ![Rodeo314](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/rodeo314/32/103_2.png) [@Rodeo314](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Rodeo314)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 9:45pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/save-as-default-min-ceiling/21795/5 "2025-12-13T21:45:29Z")
> [@SimBrief](#): > > To save a default ceiling/visibility value, for now you can only set this in the airframe options. Actually I don’t see any input fields for minimum ceiling and visibility under airframe options either. ![Screenshot 2025-12-13 at 22.41.41](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/3X/f/b/fbac04c550c7d768cc2c190ea23f0438ea04dc4a.jpeg) Regards, Tim ---
**Author:** ![SimBrief](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/simbrief/32/4850_2.png) [@SimBrief](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/SimBrief)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 9:47pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/save-as-default-min-ceiling/21795/6 "2025-12-13T21:47:46Z")
Right, that’s my mistake for trying to do too many things at once I guess. Feel free to vote for this feature, currently not supported. Best regards, ---
**Author:** ![SimBrief](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/simbrief/32/4850_2.png) [@SimBrief](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/SimBrief)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 7:28pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/save-as-default-min-ceiling/21795/7 "2025-12-20T19:28:15Z")
Hi, just to follow up, the save icons will now save both the ceiling/visibility values and their associated units. So it should now behave as you were expecting/requesting. 🙂 Best regards, ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Neep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/97f17d/32.png) [@Martin\_Neep](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Martin_Neep)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2025, 12:57pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/save-as-default-min-ceiling/21795/8 "2025-12-21T12:57:08Z")
Oh that’s wonderful. Thank you very much! 🤩 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/1X/4cc83e90d70ab312b1bd2d7527bddad309607265.png) [@system](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 12:57pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/save-as-default-min-ceiling/21795/9 "2025-12-28T12:57:45Z")
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