# PHNL Honolulu no STARs

**URL:** <https://forum.navigraph.com/t/phnl-honolulu-no-stars/3965>\
**Category:** SID/STAR/APPR\
**Created:** [January 20, 2021, 12:20pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/phnl-honolulu-no-stars/3965 "2021-01-20T12:20:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![JKTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8491ac/32.png) [@JKTech](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/JKTech)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 2:19pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/phnl-honolulu-no-stars/3965/2 "2021-01-20T14:19:22Z")

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The Navigraph data contains runway transitions for runways 4/22 and 8/26 without designators (L/R), those runways are not in the simulation, I assume that’s why the STARs fail to load.

My guess is that those are for the Water-Runways (4W/22W, 8W/26W), so in this case Asobo would need to add those runways or you have to use an add-on airport where those are added (shouldn’t be that hard as it’s just a definition of the runway on the water to add to the stock).

Maybe @NAVData can confirm that my guess is correct. In that case I’m not sure if you are handling Water-Runways differently at the moment, as the BGL/XML-structure has a dedicated designator for water runways but the current data seems to use the NONE-designator.

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