# Outdated charts for German Airports

**URL:** <https://forum.navigraph.com/t/outdated-charts-for-german-airports/14333>\
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**Created:** [December 31, 2023, 11:14am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/outdated-charts-for-german-airports/14333 "2023-12-31T11:14:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Hausnm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/eada6e/32.png) [@Hausnm](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Hausnm)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 11:14am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/outdated-charts-for-german-airports/14333/1 "2023-12-31T11:14:32Z")

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There are some German Airports, e.g. Munich and Nueremberg, perhaps some more where the Jeppesen Charts are outdated, see attached files. Pls. Consider some updates there. Are there any other outdated charts found by the community ?

 ![IMG_1652](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/3X/2/d/2dd40024019c8e7bb25d697d218c97e149339493.jpeg)  
 ![IMG_1651](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/3X/1/5/1546182e580ca332e7523300b767c9207872c2c2.jpeg)  
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 ![IMG_1649](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/3X/f/3/f383b1dedc421a00f8734409f38af68d6bec10e2.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![srcooke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@srcooke](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/srcooke)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 1:04pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/outdated-charts-for-german-airports/14333/2 "2023-12-31T13:04:25Z")

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@ [Hausnm](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Hausnm)  
Question, what do you believe is outdated.

The EDDN example indicates ‘Altitude at 13.0 DME NUB added’ on the DFS chart but this already exists on Jeppesen.

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**Author:** ![Hausnm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/eada6e/32.png) [@Hausnm](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Hausnm)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 1:21pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/outdated-charts-for-german-airports/14333/3 "2023-12-31T13:21:34Z")

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For Example Date Munich is dated Dec 2019, Deutsche Flugsicherung published the latest chart in Dec 2022.

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**Author:** ![srcooke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@srcooke](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/srcooke)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 1:23pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/outdated-charts-for-german-airports/14333/4 "2023-12-31T13:23:18Z")

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Chart publishers use different dating, FAA uses the AIRAC date, DFS the published date and Jeppesen indicates the effective date so that indicator does not apply.

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**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 1:50pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/outdated-charts-for-german-airports/14333/5 "2023-12-31T13:50:56Z")

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Hi,  
as @srcooke mentioned, please can you forward us the changes excl. the publish date? The publish date from the countries are not corresponding to the data provider publish dates.

So, the real question is, where do you see a difference now?

Cheers  
Richard

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**Author:** ![Hausnm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/eada6e/32.png) [@Hausnm](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Hausnm)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 4:58pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/outdated-charts-for-german-airports/14333/6 "2023-12-31T16:58:39Z")

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Hello,  
Well for example Munich ILS Approach 26 L and other Chart CAT ii, iii there are new minimas added. DFS has published lower minimas.

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**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 6:10pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/outdated-charts-for-german-airports/14333/7 "2023-12-31T18:10:18Z")

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Possible I misunderstood you … but can you show me these minimas (OCA/OCH) on the “outdated” Jeppesen charts? I don´t find it somewhere to compare - I only find the DAH values but that´s not the OCA/OCH …

Thank you,  
Richard

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**Author:** ![system](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/1X/4cc83e90d70ab312b1bd2d7527bddad309607265.png) [@system](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 6:10pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/outdated-charts-for-german-airports/14333/8 "2024-01-07T18:10:39Z")

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