# No SIDs or STARs at EPWA

**URL:** <https://forum.navigraph.com/t/no-sids-or-stars-at-epwa/19111>\
**Category:** SID/STAR/APPR\
**Created:** [March 24, 2025, 6:44pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/no-sids-or-stars-at-epwa/19111 "2025-03-24T18:44:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![navalguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e9a140/32.png) [@navalguy](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/navalguy)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 6:44pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/no-sids-or-stars-at-epwa/19111/1 "2025-03-24T18:44:13Z")

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No SIDs or STARs at EPWA  
MSFS2024  
Leonardo MADDOG MD-82.  
AIRAC 2503

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**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 7:59pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/no-sids-or-stars-at-epwa/19111/2 "2025-03-24T19:59:28Z")

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Hi,  
Can you confirm that you can enter EPWA as the airport in the FMC? I ask because I get “Not in database” and can´t enter EPWA in the FMC.

I have checked the same data in the MSFS2020, and EPWA is working here. I also see SIDs and STARs.

SIDs (MSFS2020):

 ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/3X/3/8/38e8d4496f2bdb7e3e7ff60b529d1ba8e9c71ce9.jpeg)

STARs (MSFS2020):

 ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/3X/1/e/1ec45189fe653e3ceaa49406c6d3cd54405f159e.jpeg)

It looks like an issue with the MSFS2024 version because the data are the same as in the MSFS2020 version, and in the MSFS2020, it works as expected.

Again, I can´t enter EPWA in the FMC as an airport … please get in touch with Maddog; why did this happen in the MSFS2024 and not in MSFS2020? Thank you very much!

Cheers,  
Richard

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**Author:** ![navalguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e9a140/32.png) [@navalguy](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/navalguy)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 8:15pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/no-sids-or-stars-at-epwa/19111/3 "2025-03-24T20:15:56Z")

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This is 2024

 ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/3X/d/4/d4a850a0475af52c452e6cd72b74ce3d9a6d84f7.jpeg)  
This is my route **EPWA/15 EVIN5D EVINA M985 KOTEK N133 RAZEC RAZE1K LZKZ/01**  
I also tried in 2020 and it is working fine. In 2024 was working with previous AIRAC, and now I cannot even select the RWY. Before i started the flight, i noticed that i still had and old AIRAC and updated it. After that i do not even have the runways for EPWA and cannot select STAR for LZKZ.

I inverted the flight plan and i have the SIDs for LZKZ available but i can still not select STARs for EPWA.

You are right, i cannot enter EPWA as origin or destination, i can only enter it if i import the FPL from Simbrief

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**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 8:20pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/no-sids-or-stars-at-epwa/19111/4 "2025-03-24T20:20:51Z")

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> [@navalguy](#):
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> You are right, I cannot enter EPWA as the origin or destination, I can only enter it if I import the FPL from Simbrief

It seems there is a bug in the MSFS2024 version. The data are 100% identical between MSFS2020 and MSFS2024.

So, I’m pretty sure something doesn’t work correctly with the MSFS2024 version, but I can’t identify any data issue.

Cheers  
Richard

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**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 8:35pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/no-sids-or-stars-at-epwa/19111/5 "2025-03-24T20:35:05Z")

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There is a posting exactly about this issue from January this year:

[https://www.flythemaddog.com/forum/index.php?/topic/15293-md-82-msfs2024-and-navigraph-airac-cycle-2501-not-in-database/](https://www.flythemaddog.com/forum/index.php?/topic/15293-md-82-msfs2024-and-navigraph-airac-cycle-2501-not-in-database/)

It is possibly worth trying the different steps.

Cheers  
Richard

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 6:44pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/no-sids-or-stars-at-epwa/19111/6 "2025-03-31T18:44:14Z")

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