# No directs (instead of a SID) allowed at EDDB - possible removing such routes from the suggest routes **URL:** \ **Category:** Dispatch\ **Tags:** airac, flightplan\ **Created:** [March 26, 2022, 7:37pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/no-directs-instead-of-a-sid-allowed-at-eddb-possible-removing-such-routes-from-the-suggest-routes/7732 "2022-03-26T19:37:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Manuelsen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Manuelsen](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Manuelsen)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2022, 7:37pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/no-directs-instead-of-a-sid-allowed-at-eddb-possible-removing-such-routes-from-the-suggest-routes/7732/1 "2022-03-26T19:37:19Z")
Hello there, AIRAC 2203 changed the SIDs in EDDB. Is there any chance to change them in the dispatch system, it currently still shows the old ones as valid which causes big problems in online networks like vatsim. Kind regards ---
**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2022, 7:48pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/no-directs-instead-of-a-sid-allowed-at-eddb-possible-removing-such-routes-from-the-suggest-routes/7732/2 "2022-03-26T19:48:41Z")
Hi, do you have an example, which SID is outdated in Simbrief? Thank you, Richard PS: and you are sure, that you have unlocked the current cycle? ---
**Author:** ![Manuelsen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Manuelsen](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Manuelsen)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2022, 8:12pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/no-directs-instead-of-a-sid-allowed-at-eddb-possible-removing-such-routes-from-the-suggest-routes/7732/3 "2022-03-26T20:12:42Z")
Hey, all ODLUN, MAXAN, SOGMA, POVEL and HLZ SIDs have been suspended and replaced with SUKIP and LOGDO. All eastbound departures out of 07L (GERGA,LUROS and ARSAP) have counted up, so they are now 2B etc. And additionally all Prop SIDs have been cancelled and previous Jet departures are now valid for both. And yes I’m 100% sure and nearly everybody else files them when flying from us. ---
**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2022, 9:10pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/no-directs-instead-of-a-sid-allowed-at-eddb-possible-removing-such-routes-from-the-suggest-routes/7732/4 "2022-03-26T21:10:17Z")
Hi, sorry, I can´t reproduce it … I can only select the new ones, even with auto-select. ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/0/05259b36ff278d5b73e971890dd0620ff4127369.png) Please can you upload a screenshot, where in SimBrief you see these outdated SIDs? Thank you, Richard ---
**Author:** ![Manuelsen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Manuelsen](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Manuelsen)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2022, 9:24pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/no-directs-instead-of-a-sid-allowed-at-eddb-possible-removing-such-routes-from-the-suggest-routes/7732/5 "2022-03-26T21:24:06Z")
Yeah I noticed that this is right, what I originally meant was the suggested routes. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 8:11am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/no-directs-instead-of-a-sid-allowed-at-eddb-possible-removing-such-routes-from-the-suggest-routes/7732/6 "2022-03-27T08:11:15Z")
> [@Manuelsen](#): > > what I originally meant was the suggested routes. … but also here, I can´t reproduce it … planned a flight from EDDB to LOWW: ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/e/e2a9ee72d0c866d4f284d8d0181a04034efc5722.png) … and here my results: ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/7/788cd74129f64320ac7f1f727a4a263b6875ac12.png) Can you post a screenshot please? Possible that makes something clearer … Thank you, Richard ---
**Author:** ![Manuelsen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Manuelsen](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Manuelsen)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 8:25am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/no-directs-instead-of-a-sid-allowed-at-eddb-possible-removing-such-routes-from-the-suggest-routes/7732/7 "2022-03-27T08:25:36Z")
Good morning, LUROS departures have not changed on rwy 25L. ![grafik](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/1/1daf7b3bc32673dc4c0ff59bfd4200f07796a787.png) If you take a look for my flight EDDB-EDDF they still show ODLUN above LOGDO. ---
**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 8:36am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/no-directs-instead-of-a-sid-allowed-at-eddb-possible-removing-such-routes-from-the-suggest-routes/7732/8 "2022-03-27T08:36:29Z")
… but this is a direct to the **fix** ODLUN and no SID ident as the LOGD1N. Cheers, Richard ---
**Author:** ![Manuelsen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Manuelsen](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Manuelsen)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 8:58am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/no-directs-instead-of-a-sid-allowed-at-eddb-possible-removing-such-routes-from-the-suggest-routes/7732/9 "2022-03-27T08:58:19Z")
yep, is it still possible to remove that routing from the suggested? DCT departures without SIDs are not allowed in EDDB and many pilots still file it as it is the top suggested route. Regards ---
**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 9:11am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/no-directs-instead-of-a-sid-allowed-at-eddb-possible-removing-such-routes-from-the-suggest-routes/7732/10 "2022-03-27T09:11:43Z")
> [@Manuelsen](#): > > yep, is it still possible to remove that routing from the suggested? DCT departures without SIDs are not allowed in EDDB and many pilots still file it as it is the top suggested route. … I´m not sure which online-network you are refer here but in this case, it would be better to inform the pilots BEFORE they filed a flightplan, means on the Vatsim/Ivao EDDB webpage that a direct is not allowed because the flightplan itself is valid and therefore useable. When there is a restriction in this area, you should communicate it somewhere. Cheers, Richard PS: by the way, I have re-named the subject becaues it´s more than confusing ---
**Author:** ![system](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/1X/4cc83e90d70ab312b1bd2d7527bddad309607265.png) [@system](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2022, 9:12am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/no-directs-instead-of-a-sid-allowed-at-eddb-possible-removing-such-routes-from-the-suggest-routes/7732/11 "2022-03-29T09:12:27Z")
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