# MSFS struggling with STAR APPR (for example LIRQ) **URL:** \ **Category:** SID/STAR/APPR\ **Created:** [April 2, 2021, 3:00pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/msfs-struggling-with-star-appr-for-example-lirq/4735 "2021-04-02T15:00:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![fernandito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9dc877/32.png) [@fernandito](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/fernandito)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 3:00pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/msfs-struggling-with-star-appr-for-example-lirq/4735/1 "2021-04-02T15:00:05Z")
Dear Navigraph team, I’m struggling with a lot of STAR approaches and hope you can give me a helping hand. To give you one example … with the A32NX approach into LIRQ (using hte Gaya Scenery); BERO1V. This is how it looks in Little Navmap (ok): ![LIRQ-LNM](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/9/98b10f77ca0e5f9fc16a5247d0e03473e4597de7.jpeg) This is how it looks in the MSFS Map (ok): ![LIRQ-MSFS](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/2/2d0f2833b9f3c02aac77ab43878003e61b962ee9.jpeg) And this how it looks in the Airbus (not so ok): ![LIRQ-A32NX](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/c/cb2a59c99b38b686beb1ff9f9c11f4048030a932.jpeg) I really don’t know where to start to find a solution. Thanks for your help and have a nice weekend, fernandito ---
**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 3:07pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/msfs-struggling-with-star-appr-for-example-lirq/4735/2 "2021-04-02T15:07:46Z")
Hi Fernandito, you will not find any solution for that. The issue is more a in-game one with their flightmanagement logic. You can´t do anything for that and it´s data independet, means you will find a lot of such situations with the stock data also. The WorldMap and the A320X uses exactly (and when I write exactly, I mean exactly) the same files for the navdata (in stock and with our update). So, it should be the same result, right … but it doesn´t as you see. What I highly recommend is the WorkingTitle CJ4 mod. The guys there, uses not the in-game flightmanagement, they have written their own and here, you will see that nearly all procedures are working as expected. Again, all other in-game default aircrafts, also the Garmins doesn´t work very well due the bad and also confirmed logic by ASOBO. So there is a lot of space on improvements for ASOBO. We can only offer the data but we have no influence on the logic behind, sorry. When you look in our [“Known issue” category,](https://forum.navigraph.com/c/msfs-beta/know-issues/30) you will find a few similar issues, which we have found and which are still reported to ASOBO. Again, WorkingTitle CJ4 mod is a very good example, how the procedure looks, when the data will be interpreted correctly. Cheers, Richard ---
**Author:** ![fernandito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9dc877/32.png) [@fernandito](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/fernandito)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 3:37pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/msfs-struggling-with-star-appr-for-example-lirq/4735/3 "2021-04-02T15:37:01Z")
Hi Richard, thanks for the quick feedback. At least, now I know, that I made no errors installing navigraph and I don’t have to spend more time in searching for a solution. I will give the CJ4 Mod a try and also wait for the FlyByWire Team to get to develop their own Flightmanagement. Cheers. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/1X/4cc83e90d70ab312b1bd2d7527bddad309607265.png) [@system](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2021, 3:37pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/msfs-struggling-with-star-appr-for-example-lirq/4735/4 "2021-04-04T15:37:26Z")
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