# Missing STAR for SCEL

**URL:** <https://forum.navigraph.com/t/missing-star-for-scel/4925>\
**Category:** SID/STAR/APPR\
**Created:** [April 23, 2021, 6:14am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/missing-star-for-scel/4925 "2021-04-23T06:14:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![JeanLuc95](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/jeanluc95/32/104_2.png) [@JeanLuc95](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/JeanLuc95)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 6:14am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/missing-star-for-scel/4925/1 "2021-04-23T06:14:51Z")

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Hi,  
With SCEL arrival and AIRAC 2104 rev1, I don’t see STAR UMKA5C for ILS17R on my FMS.

 ![2021-04-23](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/2/2093b87949d1cc6db0f1ec4856847eaf710ab932.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 6:49am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/missing-star-for-scel/4925/2 "2021-04-23T06:49:04Z")

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Hi Jean-Luc,  
I guess the reason is the real-world temp change - which will not be reflected in the sim, it looks. 17R is closed and renamed temporary to 19/35L:

 ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/0/00a64c0c5287cbb756596ca6d9a16e855a3d577f.jpeg)

I have checked the data now and the UMKA5C is included but due the “missing” runway 17R all procedures for 17L/R will be disabled by the sim. That is also the reason, why you don´t see ANY terminal procedures for the runways 17L/R.

You see this also directly in the sim, where the runway-ident is missing which should be VORDME 19.

 ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/5/5c6cd46eeb2a3397d1b82bcdde4f58e48a0f670d.png)

Sorry, but our data reflects the real-world as you see  
Cheers,  
Richard

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**Author:** ![JeanLuc95](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/jeanluc95/32/104_2.png) [@JeanLuc95](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/JeanLuc95)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 7:04am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/missing-star-for-scel/4925/3 "2021-04-23T07:04:08Z")

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Thanks for explanation. Ok i don’t read notam, only Simbrief flight plan 🥺

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**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 7:15am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/missing-star-for-scel/4925/4 "2021-04-23T07:15:12Z")

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According the NOTAMS - the runway 17L/R should be back to normal with end of April (29th). That means, with the next AIRAC cycle, all terminal procedures will be back (or when ASOBO removes these limitation before - who knows :-))

Cheers,  
Richard

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**Author:** ![system](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/1X/4cc83e90d70ab312b1bd2d7527bddad309607265.png) [@system](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 7:15am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/missing-star-for-scel/4925/5 "2021-04-25T07:15:37Z")

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