# Missing Minimums on Approach Chart? **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [June 12, 2023, 7:38pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/missing-minimums-on-approach-chart/12463 "2023-06-12T19:38:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![arklayton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@arklayton](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/arklayton)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 7:38pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/missing-minimums-on-approach-chart/12463/1 "2023-06-12T19:38:48Z")
The LYTV NDB Y Rwy 14 approach chart does not show any minimums. And the waypoint that is 6.3NM from TAZ NDB was labeled as 3.9 TIV DME on an older Jepp chart. The older chart also had minimums. Thanks, Al ![Screenshot_2](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/8/885a6553a686f1676d11f7234cea6680bb4f0656.png) ---
**Author:** ![skysail](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/skysail/32/304_2.png) [@skysail](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/skysail)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 7:45pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/missing-minimums-on-approach-chart/12463/2 "2023-06-12T19:45:18Z")
Hi! Thanks for reaching out here on our forum! Just above your annotation, there is a note that lets you know where you can find the information. If you open the 19-11 chart, you will find MDAs for both runways! ![Navigraph Charts 06-12@2x](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/6/670b07460ad67fba01fc73f54b033937fa227af3.png) ![Navigraph Charts 06-12@2x](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/f/f25488123896416c149801a8d626c8f5c1cc5652.jpeg) I hope this helps! Kind Regards, Malte ---
**Author:** ![arklayton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@arklayton](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/arklayton)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 8:43pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/missing-minimums-on-approach-chart/12463/3 "2023-06-12T20:43:02Z")
Thanks for pointing that out! What still seems strange to me is the waypoint that is 6.3NM from TAZ NDB (the MAP) is not labeled with a DME value as are the other waypoints. And as I mentioned above, it is labeled 3.9 NM from TIV on the older chart. Seems odd they would revert to just using timing for that on the newer chart. Thanks, Al ---
**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 12:03pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/missing-minimums-on-approach-chart/12463/4 "2023-06-13T12:03:50Z")
Hi, I will try to answer this question … > [@arklayton](#): > > What still seems strange to me is the waypoint that is 6.3NM from TAZ NDB (the MAP) is not labeled with a DME value as are the other waypoints. This NDB has no DME component and therefore the missing DME reference like you see it on the TAZ NDB (= D7.3 TIV). > [@arklayton](#): > > And as I mentioned above, it is labeled 3.9 NM from TIV on the older chart. Also, I have compared the information from the AIP Serbia/Montenegro and it seems, they have changed the coding because as you see, there is also only the 6.3 NM information available and not that 3.9/TIV reference what you are mentioned from older charts. ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/b/b29c53a4f31fe05b64a1611800d28d6376f5b3c3.jpeg) So, it looks that the charts were changed from the country to this minimum information - that´s the reason, why also Jeppesen can offers these information only. Hope that helps, Richard ---
**Author:** ![arklayton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@arklayton](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/arklayton)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 2:58pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/missing-minimums-on-approach-chart/12463/5 "2023-06-13T14:58:20Z")
OK, thanks very much for the updated info. Al ---
**Author:** ![system](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/1X/4cc83e90d70ab312b1bd2d7527bddad309607265.png) [@system](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 2:59pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/missing-minimums-on-approach-chart/12463/6 "2023-06-15T14:59:19Z")
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