# LSGG charts not updated - FATO - Holding Point -
**URL:** https://forum.navigraph.com/t/lsgg-charts-not-updated-fato-holding-point/17183
**Category:** General
**Created:** [October 10, 2024, 5:36pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/lsgg-charts-not-updated-fato-holding-point/17183 "2024-10-10T17:36:27Z")
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### Author:  [@laurentc1260](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/laurentc1260)
#### Post date: [October 10, 2024, 5:36pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/lsgg-charts-not-updated-fato-holding-point/17183/1 "2024-10-10T17:36:27Z")
Hello,
Why LSGG charts are not update with the latest airac.
When it will be update?
At the moment FATO not available, new holding point too.
Thanks
Laurent
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### Author:  [@Rodeo314](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Rodeo314)
#### Post date: [October 10, 2024, 10:21pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/lsgg-charts-not-updated-fato-holding-point/17183/2 "2024-10-10T22:21:46Z")
Hi Laurent, weren’t the new updates supposed to be in November (along with decommissioning of SPR and GVA)?
Although it does look like the SkyGuide ground charts for LSGG (via autorouter) did get updated effective 3 October 2024 so maybe not.
Regards,
Tim
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### Author:  [@laurentc1260](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/laurentc1260)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2024, 5:38am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/lsgg-charts-not-updated-fato-holding-point/17183/3 "2024-10-11T05:38:19Z")
Hello Tim,
Ground on this airac (FATO, new taxiway, new holding bay, stopbar, …) and with the next cycle decommissioning of SPR, GVA and FRI VOR
will be rename as SAPRE GEVEA FRIBU
New SIDs and all rename
Jeppesen have problems to give valid airac on real life too during few days.
Have a nice day
Laurent
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### Author:  [@srcooke](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/srcooke)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2024, 7:22am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/lsgg-charts-not-updated-fato-holding-point/17183/4 "2024-10-11T07:22:04Z")
Issued as Jeppesen Notice & Alert:
> Jeppesen Airport Moving Map and A816 formatted data for cycle 2410, effective 03 October 2024, contain incorrect data for Geneva; Geneva, Switzerland (LSGG). Switzerland AIP AMDT 010-24, published 19 September 2024, effective 03 October 2024, was received after 2410 AIRAC cycle data processing due date, therefore the following changes, effective 03 October 2024, are not reflected in cycle 2410 data:
>
> ```
> TWY Y is renamed to TWY P
> TWY Z is renamed to TWY Q
> RWY-type FATO 04H/22H (between TWY P and RWY 04/22) is added
> TWY V is added (south of TWY P)
> TWY Holding Positions P3, R1 are added
> Holding Bay Y2 is renamed to Holding Bay P
> Holding Bay Z is renamed to Holding Bay Q
> Holding Bay Y1 is renamed to Holding Bay R
>
> ```
>
> WE STRONGLY URGE YOU TO MAKE THIS INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO APPROPRIATE CREW MEMBERS OR CUSTOMERS IMMEDIATELY!
>
> Revised data will appear in Jeppesen Airport Moving Map and A816 formatted data for cycle 2411, effective 31 October 2024. Until then this Alert will be posted on the Jeppesen Web site: Notices and Alerts. Please refer to the local NOTAMs for valid information.
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### Author:  [@laurentc1260](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/laurentc1260)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2024, 4:13pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/lsgg-charts-not-updated-fato-holding-point/17183/5 "2024-10-11T16:13:14Z")
Thanks a lot for this information.
Have a nice day
Laurent
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### Author:  [@Rodeo314](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Rodeo314)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2024, 5:09pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/lsgg-charts-not-updated-fato-holding-point/17183/6 "2024-10-11T17:09:46Z")
BTW, is the A816 data mentioned in the alert powering the “taxi” charts on the main map when you zoom in?
Regards,
Tim
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### Author:  [@system](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2024, 5:10pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/lsgg-charts-not-updated-fato-holding-point/17183/7 "2024-10-13T17:10:29Z")
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