# LPMA Madeira - incorrect approaches **URL:** \ **Category:** General non MSFS data\ **Created:** [March 5, 2023, 8:42pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/lpma-madeira-incorrect-approaches/11402 "2023-03-05T20:42:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TheFl4me](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@TheFl4me](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/TheFl4me)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 8:42pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/lpma-madeira-incorrect-approaches/11402/1 "2023-03-05T20:42:30Z")
It would seem that there is a little rwy assignment issue with the data at LPMA. According the AIP, these are the approaches to LPMA: RNP A 05 RNP Z 05 RNP Y 05 VOR 05 RNP B 23 RNP 23 VOR 23 These exist in the FMS Data, thats good. BUT there seem to be a bunch of extra approaches that shouldn’t exist (at all or anymore): RNP B 05 (RNP B is only for rwy 23 not also 05) RNP A 23 (RNP A is only for rwy 05 not also 23) VDM A 05 VDM B 05 VDM A 23 VDM B 23 I believe the VDM approaches used to be correct many AIRACs ago, but no longer exist now. Now there is only 1 VOR approach per runway and it doesn’t have a letter (A or B). So not quite sure which approaches these are referring to as they don’t exist in the AIP… Screenshots (Ignore the red circles) ![list](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/c/c42b189adee8d1d4ade4a3c2de3da47e412831d9.png) ![2](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/3/35945f82a1f719a05c4ff459b3683c6e04c033f3.png) ![1](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/e/e35db9325ccc3dceb115e516dbbaf699cff5619c.png) ---
**Author:** ![PoeticPhoenix3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/50afbb/32.png) [@PoeticPhoenix3](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/PoeticPhoenix3)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 3:03am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/lpma-madeira-incorrect-approaches/11402/2 "2023-03-06T03:03:16Z")
Yes, I ran across this issue. I am new to this world of aviation. Thank you TheFI4me for posting this here. ---
**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 6:16am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/lpma-madeira-incorrect-approaches/11402/3 "2023-03-06T06:16:29Z")
Hi, I will check this … Thank you! Cheers Richard ---
**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 4:52pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/lpma-madeira-incorrect-approaches/11402/4 "2023-03-06T16:52:37Z")
Hi guys, I have checked now the AIP and I can confirm that these CTL-approaches are no longer available. I have also checked our database and I still see these approaches, so we will report this to Jeppesen, that they can remove it in the next couple of cycles. I can´t really say, when these approaches are removed, this is in the hands of Jeppesen but we will report it, for sure. Thank you for the hint, Richard ---
**Author:** ![TheFl4me](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@TheFl4me](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/TheFl4me)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 5:24pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/lpma-madeira-incorrect-approaches/11402/5 "2023-03-06T17:24:16Z")
Thank you very much Richard 🙂 While you’re at it, I reported a similar issue with SKBO Bogota a while back (mismatch between AIP and data on the sim) but the thread seems to have gone unnoticed and has since been locked. > [@Some approaches missing at Bogota SKBO](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/some-approaches-missing-at-bogota-skbo/11042): > > Both RNP D 32L and 32R are missing in the FMS (and have been missing for years now). All other 32 L/R RNP approaches (C, Z, Y, and X) are there, just not D. This is problematic because D is the only non-AR and/or RF-required approach of the lot. I am using the PMDG aircraft in P3Dv5.3 and the result is the same for all of them (747, 777, 737…). The issue is not isolated to me but affects all people I know as well. My point being, might as well report Bogota to the provider while you’re at it since it’s probably the same issue. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/1X/4cc83e90d70ab312b1bd2d7527bddad309607265.png) [@system](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 5:24pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/lpma-madeira-incorrect-approaches/11402/6 "2023-03-08T17:24:44Z")
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