# KSNA RNAV Z not as charted

**URL:** <https://forum.navigraph.com/t/ksna-rnav-z-not-as-charted/6838>\
**Category:** General non MSFS data\
**Created:** [December 7, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/ksna-rnav-z-not-as-charted/6838 "2021-12-07T14:54:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![banjob73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9bd4f/32.png) [@banjob73](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/banjob73)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/ksna-rnav-z-not-as-charted/6838/1 "2021-12-07T14:54:34Z")

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My OS is Win7 using FSX, the iFl;y 737NG and AIRAC 2112. Descending via the DSNEE5, I received this clearance, “after DSNEE cleared the RNAV Z 20R approach”. The FMS routed direct ZETOV instead of joining the final at EHVOX. That seems incorrect to me as the waypoints are in the database. Just wondering?

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  ![RNAV Z 20R](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/d/d3ed9c11901b812bd70bbaf7f9a64e6c9d378c2f.jpeg)  
 ](https://skyvector.com/files/tpp/2112/thumb/00377RRZ20R.jpg)

Bob

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**Author:** ![banjob73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9bd4f/32.png) [@banjob73](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/banjob73)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 2:56pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/ksna-rnav-z-not-as-charted/6838/2 "2021-12-07T14:56:36Z")

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OOoops! That didn’t work right. Let’s try this.

[https://skyvector.com/files/tpp/2112/pdf/00377RRZ20R.PDF](https://skyvector.com/files/tpp/2112/pdf/00377RRZ20R.PDF)

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**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 4:13pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/ksna-rnav-z-not-as-charted/6838/3 "2021-12-07T16:13:09Z")

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Hi,  
please can you check it again because I can´t reproduce it …

I have selected the KSNA RNP 20R-Z approach, the DSNEE transition and see all the correct waypoints in the correct sequence. No shortcut or similar else.

 ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/b/b79258cab677be99045af2b56e3220a6094cb613.png)

Cheers,  
Richard

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**Author:** ![banjob73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9bd4f/32.png) [@banjob73](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/banjob73)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 5:28pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/ksna-rnav-z-not-as-charted/6838/4 "2021-12-07T17:28:07Z")

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That is what I expected but I was not even offered a transition. Curious! I will fly it again to test and post results. Thanks Richard.

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**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 5:40pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/ksna-rnav-z-not-as-charted/6838/5 "2021-12-07T17:40:27Z")

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You can directly select the transitions on the Arrivals page, after selecting the approach:

 ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/e/e4fa132cdc708a865033489a52390c2c3524d390.png)

Also, check the version (v.3.2.2.0) and if you have really installed the current cycle 2112:

 ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/9/954d24b5a3d772510b4b50af54c178a11c41a859.png)

Hope that helps,  
Richard

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**Author:** ![banjob73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9bd4f/32.png) [@banjob73](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/banjob73)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 3:50am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/ksna-rnav-z-not-as-charted/6838/6 "2021-12-08T03:50:41Z")

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I was unable to reproduce it either. On a retest I was able to select the transition, the waypoints displayed correctly and the FMS flew the magenta line as charted. Perfect!

However, now I’m confused and feeling a bit foolish trying to figure out what happened. ATC changed from the ILS to the RNAV just as I reached DSNEE. In my rush to reprogram, I might have just missed it. But I then flew 2 test flights immediately after to check before I even considered posting here. I must have been doing something incorrectly. All good and marking this solved.

Oh well. I am getting old! Thank you for the great support and wonderful products.

Best Regards,  
Bob

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**Author:** ![system](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/1X/4cc83e90d70ab312b1bd2d7527bddad309607265.png) [@system](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 3:51am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/ksna-rnav-z-not-as-charted/6838/7 "2021-12-10T03:51:34Z")

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