# Incomplete Flightplan-SIDs and Stars missing
**URL:** https://forum.navigraph.com/t/incomplete-flightplan-sids-and-stars-missing/19254
**Category:** General non MSFS data
**Created:** [April 6, 2025, 12:28pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/incomplete-flightplan-sids-and-stars-missing/19254 "2025-04-06T12:28:47Z")
**Posts on this page:** 7
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### Author:  [@AlanRaw](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/AlanRaw)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2025, 12:28pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/incomplete-flightplan-sids-and-stars-missing/19254/1 "2025-04-06T12:28:47Z")
Hi there,
recently I have found out that after exporting a new flight plan via my iPad into my X-Plane 12 that the waypoints from the SIDS and STARS are missing in the FMS - I can add them manually but this is not how it´s meant to be (it used to work flawlessly before the last Airac update 2503 I suppose). I´m using X-Plane 12.1.4r3 on my MacMini M4PRO/ MacOS 15.4, my plane is the ToLiss A320 neo, and I have the add-on Vienna Scenery
Attachments:
This shows the route on my iPad after planning and the next photo shows the FMS waypoints after the transfer to the FMS; here the waypoints of the SID´s are missing.
Thanks in advance
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### Author:  [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2025, 5:41pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/incomplete-flightplan-sids-and-stars-missing/19254/2 "2025-04-06T17:41:35Z")
Hi,
Can you upload the flightplan file here, that we can check it. Thank you very much!
Cheers
Richard
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### Author:  [@AlanRaw](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/AlanRaw)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2025, 7:00pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/incomplete-flightplan-sids-and-stars-missing/19254/3 "2025-04-06T19:00:59Z")
Hi Richard,
Here is the mentioned flight plan file.
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> [LOWWLOWK.fms](https://forum.navigraph.com/uploads/short-url/AhsWRczC3LzZwkgFxKkqs7UGeRz.fms) (315 Bytes)
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### Author:  [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2025, 7:16pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/incomplete-flightplan-sids-and-stars-missing/19254/4 "2025-04-06T19:16:40Z")
Hi
Thank you - the terminal procedures are included in the flightplan, so it seems an issue with ToLiss. Have you tried it in a stock aircraft?
Cheers
Richard
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### Author:  [@AlanRaw](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/AlanRaw)
#### Post date: [April 7, 2025, 7:42pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/incomplete-flightplan-sids-and-stars-missing/19254/5 "2025-04-07T19:42:11Z")
Hi Richard,
Yes, tried the same flightplan with some stock planes and all the waypoints were in the loaded flightplan; I will contact ToLiss maybe they can fix that! Thanks for your efforts!
Greetings
Alan
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### Author:  [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)
#### Post date: [April 7, 2025, 7:45pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/incomplete-flightplan-sids-and-stars-missing/19254/6 "2025-04-07T19:45:03Z")
Thanks Alan for your feedback - when able, and you get an answer it would be nice, when you can post the “solution” here (if there is a solution). 😉
Thank you very much,
Richard
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### Author:  [@system](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [April 9, 2025, 7:45pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/incomplete-flightplan-sids-and-stars-missing/19254/7 "2025-04-09T19:45:22Z")
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