# In game panel is GARBAGE. Issues galore!

**URL:** <https://forum.navigraph.com/t/in-game-panel-is-garbage-issues-galore/15453>\
**Category:** MSFS In-Game Panel\
**Created:** [April 17, 2024, 6:11pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/in-game-panel-is-garbage-issues-galore/15453 "2024-04-17T18:11:12Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 2:42pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/in-game-panel-is-garbage-issues-galore/15453/4 "2024-04-19T14:42:34Z")

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> [@frayedends](#):
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> There are a few aircraft that will sync to the sim if you import a simbrief flightplan, and those instances are when the “Simulator Flightplan Detected” popup is triggered.

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> Those aircraft also sync the flight plan with the sim since they’re based on the default aircraft and systems.

Hmm, I see! And you don’t ever load the flightplan into the panel either then I assume? Since this message should not appear if the route is the same already.

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> Very interesting on the CTL+N shortcut, I did not see that in any of the documentation though. Does this do the same thing as re-clicking the panel app in the toolbar to minimize it?

It is mentioned in the release notes a couple times, last here:

> [@Release Notes - Navigraph Charts In-Game Panel for MSFS](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/release-notes-navigraph-charts-in-game-panel-for-msfs/5246/1):
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> The keyboard shortcut Ctrl + N that toggles the panel’s visibility is now more reliable. Usage of the shortcut rather than the “X” button to toggle the panel mitigates the reset issue that Asobo introduced in SU8.

This is not the most visible location to advertise this feature, but we try to raise awareness for it whenever we can! It does not do the same as minimizing the panel - the difference is that the shortcut _directly hides_ the panel without animations, and leaves no bar visible on the screen.

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> [@frayedends](#):
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> Had no idea the X fully resets it, there really isn’t a lot of documentation in the app panel on this.

This is not a limitation that has always been there, and it is not a limitation introduced by Navigraph. While we do inform users about this here on the forum, it’d be great to have such information somewhere more visible to our users! We don’t have any obvious places for this at the moment, but perhaps it could become a feature of a planned refresh of the Navigraph Hub!

If you have any suggestions on where you would prefer to find such information (simulator limitations & keyboard shortcuts), we’d be happy to hear about that too!

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> [@frayedends](#):
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> The side panel opening each time is really annoying when the interface rescales back to 100%, as it now covers the entire panel and the “hide” button is now obscured because I’ve sized the window down to what might be it’s minimum.

Yeah, I totally get that it is annoying that the scale resets. The reason behind it is also causing some other issues, such as the feature showcase (“Annotations” at the moment) showing up every time the panel is opened. We have asked Simulator devs for help, but so far not arrived at any answer.

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> [@frayedends](#):
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> Ok that’s good to know. Is there a place where existing bugs can be found? Usually I’ll check a developers Github for info, but since yours is in house and closed source, I can’t.

This forum is where we handle bug reports, and the search function should lead you to a couple of related topics! If you don’t find any topics for your issue, feel free to create one!

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> imagine the chart being sized pretty small and stuck in the lower left corner, then - click click click - on things, go back to the charts app, and bam - it’s now twice as wide as it was, and seems to reload the page again. Then I have to drag and resize the app back down, and you can probably understand there’s some frustration there

This sounds infuriating! I have never seen it myself, and you’re right - a video would be great! If I understand you correctly, the whole panel is resized. This is what I mentioned as something we don’t and can’t control at all even if we wanted to, but it is interesting nonetheless. The forum supports video uploads, but YouTube, Streamable, etc. works fine as well if you manage to capture it!

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> Ok didn’t know about this bug as well. It is one of the most irritating right now, and it just started back in Feb.

Yeah, it’s not fun. Did you try the debug steps? What was the outcome?

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> What would really be better is to have a button that does that so I don’t have to take my hands off the stick or yoke to do a shortcut on the keyboard.

Oh believe me, we think this would be awesome too! We did look into it but unfortunately, this does not appear to be supported by the simulator at the moment. A solution that I have seen elsewhere is to remap a joystick button to the shortcut key combination, which essentially has the same outcome! This is hard to achieve if you don’t have such customization software though, of course.

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> once the power from the generators is offline, the panel opens (even from closed) in the panel header bar, seemingly squeezed there, and it has to be closed via the toolbar

This sounds insane hahaha! I will try to get ahold of one of their products to try it myself, but if it only happens with their addons I am not sure we are to blame… It sounds crazy though, I’ll try to take a look!

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> [@frayedends](#):
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> I have been doing that from time to time, but then it becomes a pain to hide it completely when I need my whole screen and not obstruct a view or access to something in the cockpit I need to click on, and getting it back on screen.

Yeah, it’s a tradeoff of course… Perhaps we could set up a keybind for that as well in the future! If you’d like to see that or have any other suggestions, feel free to post in the #Wishlist !

Kind Regards,  
Malte

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