# ILS issues at KIAD (AIRAC 2411)

**URL:** <https://forum.navigraph.com/t/ils-issues-at-kiad-airac-2411/17423>\
**Category:** ILS\
**Created:** [November 3, 2024, 1:10am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/ils-issues-at-kiad-airac-2411/17423 "2024-11-03T01:10:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![STIPP123](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/stipp123/32/17170_2.png) [@STIPP123](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/STIPP123)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 1:10am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/ils-issues-at-kiad-airac-2411/17423/1 "2024-11-03T01:10:21Z")

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DME did not work and the localizer appears to have some issues too. No problems with GS  
Unfortunately I ended up forgetting to take a screenshot on the approach, so if anyone else wants to try to reproduce the problem, it would be a great help.

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**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 7:17am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/ils-issues-at-kiad-airac-2411/17423/2 "2024-11-03T07:17:25Z")

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Hi,  
And welcome at Navigraph. Please can you give us more details to reproduce it.

Which sim do you use?  
Which addon has you used?  
Do you use any 3rd party sceneries?  
Also, which runway which ILS … KIAD has more than one ILS

Thank you very much  
Richard

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**Author:** ![STIPP123](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/stipp123/32/17170_2.png) [@STIPP123](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/STIPP123)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 4:57pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/ils-issues-at-kiad-airac-2411/17423/3 "2024-11-03T16:57:25Z")

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Hi!  
Microsoft Flight Simulator  
ILS01C  
PMDG 737-900ER, navdata updated via EFB  
No 3rd party

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**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 7:32am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/ils-issues-at-kiad-airac-2411/17423/4 "2024-11-04T07:32:26Z")

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Hi,  
Thank you very much for the details. The ILS 01C has no DME portion; it´s an ILS LOC only, according to the FAA.

 ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/3X/1/f/1f5df03e410a4c3075a6f4747050d35e65b16c2b.png)

against 01R - here you have an ILS-DME approach:  
 ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/3X/9/a/9a072f01b498c970512cc4fab730d07e8ed7f896.png)

You should use the radar fixes when you fly this as an ILS approach. When you fly it as a LOC approach, all DMEs are against the AML VOR, and this is received correctly.

Thank you,  
Richard

PS: the Jeppesen chart shows an ILS-DME; we have reported this to Jeppesen. The data are correct - no DME portion.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 7:33am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/ils-issues-at-kiad-airac-2411/17423/5 "2024-11-06T07:33:17Z")

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