# FSIA - Multiple outdated approaches in Data

**URL:** <https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fsia-multiple-outdated-approaches-in-data/11536>\
**Category:** General non MSFS data\
**Created:** [March 18, 2023, 10:46am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fsia-multiple-outdated-approaches-in-data/11536 "2023-03-18T10:46:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![TheFl4me](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@TheFl4me](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/TheFl4me)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 7:26am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fsia-multiple-outdated-approaches-in-data/11536/4 "2023-03-19T07:26:04Z")

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Unfortunately, I am not allowed to share documentation from my operator online.

But, I can attest that it matches Navigraphs own AIP in your Charts app, and a controller from that area has confirmed this (verbally) as well [that there should only be those 5 named approaches]

I mean here is a screenshot from the charts app, but obviously, I assume that you guys have access to that as well:

 ![Screenshot 2023-03-19 080603](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/c/c3182f7589b48d595048980cd84bdd94a88bbf08.png)

As to the date, that’s my mistake, I was hasty (since in my mind the exact date didn’t really matter) and only looked at ILS Y 31 (hence June). But the fact remains that those extra approaches should not exst in the current AIRAC, irrelevant whether that’s since June or since November.

In general, this seems to be a widespread issue (mismatch between AIP and FMS Data) with Jeppesen and/or Navigraph. I have witnessed this with multiple airports throughout the years. Just a few weeks/months ago I reported the same issue at LPMA (which you yourself confirmed Richard) as well as SKBO. There are other instances I’ve personally experienced over the years, but I’ve only recently started reporting them.

> [@LPMA Madeira - incorrect approaches](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/lpma-madeira-incorrect-approaches/11402):
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> It would seem that there is a little rwy assignment issue with the data at LPMA. According the AIP, these are the approaches to LPMA: RNP A 05 RNP Z 05 RNP Y 05 VOR 05 RNP B 23 RNP 23 VOR 23 These exist in the FMS Data, thats good. BUT there seem to be a bunch of extra approaches that shouldn’t exist (at all or anymore): RNP B 05 (RNP B is only for rwy 23 not also 05) RNP A 23 (RNP A is only for rwy 05 not also 23) VDM A 05 VDM B 05 VDM A 23 VDM B 23 I believe the VDM approaches …

> [@Some approaches missing at Bogota SKBO](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/some-approaches-missing-at-bogota-skbo/11042):
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> Both RNP D 32L and 32R are missing in the FMS (and have been missing for years now). All other 32 L/R RNP approaches (C, Z, Y, and X) are there, just not D. This is problematic because D is the only non-AR and/or RF-required approach of the lot. I am using the PMDG aircraft in P3Dv5.3 and the result is the same for all of them (747, 777, 737…). The issue is not isolated to me but affects all people I know as well.

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