# FMS database not updating in Prepar3d

**URL:** <https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fms-database-not-updating-in-prepar3d/7757>\
**Category:** FMS Data Manager\
**Created:** [March 31, 2022, 7:43am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fms-database-not-updating-in-prepar3d/7757 "2022-03-31T07:43:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Wampster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ce73a5/32.png) [@Wampster](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Wampster)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 7:43am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fms-database-not-updating-in-prepar3d/7757/1 "2022-03-31T07:43:40Z")

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[https://gyazo.com/bf10bd3e48203cf4d2c3762485993629](https://gyazo.com/bf10bd3e48203cf4d2c3762485993629)  
[https://gyazo.com/5be9ccad021aae6d2c98d545cf02d68f](https://gyazo.com/5be9ccad021aae6d2c98d545cf02d68f)

I don’t understand what I am doing wrong. Above, I’ve placed links to screenshots where I show that I’ve updated my Majestic Dash8 Q400 and then the FMS in the Majestic showing a 2017 (outdated) database.

When I try to load a flight path in to the FMS, from SimBrief, it can’t find waypoints. I presume that the reason for that is because of the outdated database. I am obviously doing something wrong and I just can’t find the answer; Perhaps because I don’t really know what to look for. I thought the purpose of the Navigraph FMS Data Manager was to update the onboard FMS in the aircraft. Is it not?

Am I barking up the completely wrong tree? How do I update my aircraft FMS to recognise current waypoints from flight plans?

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**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 7:52am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fms-database-not-updating-in-prepar3d/7757/2 "2022-03-31T07:52:06Z")

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Hi,  
please can you confirm, that you are still on the old Prepar3D v3 … is this correct? Currently the version is v5 … only just to be sure because in your FMS Data Manager screenshot you have P33 in the Majestic line, which means you are using P3D v3 … P34 = P3D v4 and P35 is P3D v5 …

Cheers,  
Richard

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**Author:** ![Wampster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ce73a5/32.png) [@Wampster](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Wampster)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 7:54am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fms-database-not-updating-in-prepar3d/7757/3 "2022-03-31T07:54:43Z")

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Yes. I have Prepar3d V3. So, I can’t use Navigraph?

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**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 8:02am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fms-database-not-updating-in-prepar3d/7757/4 "2022-03-31T08:02:43Z")

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For sure, we support the Majestics in all versions independet of which sim-version you use. It was only a little bit strange for me and therefore the question. I don´t have P3Dv3 installed so, I can´t really reproduce it …

So, first of all please post a screenshot of your settings page in the FMS Data Manager to look if your P3D root path is correct so far:

 ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/4/4b64b2321a5c1afda6659155795d7a7ac33c8a50.jpeg)

Further a screenshot of your Majestic Addon Mapping - move your mouse over the path in the Addon-Mapping page that you see the whole path

 ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/9/96f52347049442d778ce93274177e7f65c8cbed5.jpeg)

… and last, please upload the screenshots directly here in the forum and not somewhere external via link. A description, how you can do this - do you find [here](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/posting-guide-uploading-screenshots/116)

Thank you,  
Richard

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**Author:** ![Wampster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ce73a5/32.png) [@Wampster](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Wampster)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 8:14am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fms-database-not-updating-in-prepar3d/7757/5 "2022-03-31T08:14:02Z")

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[https://gyazo.com/24200cffd75792a1b459f3b97467d272](https://gyazo.com/24200cffd75792a1b459f3b97467d272)  
This first one, I added the window to the side because the entire path wasn’t legible in the main window.  
[https://gyazo.com/5576e451e1dcec7cff1b332f634aeb71](https://gyazo.com/5576e451e1dcec7cff1b332f634aeb71)  
I had an issue with this second one too. But, the paths are visible in a round-about way.

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**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 8:23am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fms-database-not-updating-in-prepar3d/7757/6 "2022-03-31T08:23:08Z")

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Again, please upload the screenshots directly here in the forum and not over your own cloud … when you delete the screenshots, this posting is useless because no one can open the external links then - so please try to upload the screenshots here directly

> [@Posting Guide - Uploading Screenshots](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/posting-guide-uploading-screenshots/116):
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> It is said a picture is worth a thousand words. Often a problem is solved most quickly when screenshot(s) are provided. To include screenshots in our forum: For Windows 10 users, press Windows logo key [image] + Shift + S to open the snipping bar, then drag the cursor over the area you want to capture. The area you snipped will be saved to your clipboard. (Optionally, you can annotate the image, by clicking on Snip saved to clipboard). For Mac users, press Ctrl-Command-Shift-4 to capture…

The paths looks good. So, can you check if the files are installed correctly now?

So please go into your P3Dv3 root path:  
under `SimObjects\Airplanes\mjc8q400\nav`

Here you should see a cycle\_info.txt file … it´s a simple text-file. Can you open it and can you look what AIRAC version you see here?

As an example like mine:

 ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/4/43a863eaffc5c957d15bbb0b0a0ee89d8e12ec31.png)

Do you see 2203 or any other cycle number?

Cheers,  
Richard

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**Author:** ![Wampster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ce73a5/32.png) [@Wampster](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Wampster)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 8:27am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fms-database-not-updating-in-prepar3d/7757/7 "2022-03-31T08:27:07Z")

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**Author:** ![Wampster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ce73a5/32.png) [@Wampster](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Wampster)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 8:31am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fms-database-not-updating-in-prepar3d/7757/8 "2022-03-31T08:31:51Z")

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Actually, there is ‘something’ interesting in that folder. I think I might see something related. I’ll go gather screenshots.

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**Author:** ![Wampster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ce73a5/32.png) [@Wampster](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Wampster)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 8:37am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fms-database-not-updating-in-prepar3d/7757/9 "2022-03-31T08:37:35Z")

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![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/1/17deb81ab517d2fef00a039623f5b9aa1c47436e.png)

![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/d/dfb135e69aad34ffd99335d9a8f4286f471a7a32.png)

All of the files in the first screenshot are dated to 2022. However, the file nd.db3 is dated to 2017. That is the same year that the onboard FMS says that it’s database expiration is.

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**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 8:43am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fms-database-not-updating-in-prepar3d/7757/10 "2022-03-31T08:43:53Z")

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That is exactly the reason …

Try following:

1. close the sim (if open)
2. close the FMS Data Manager (if open)
3. delete all files in this folder (excluding your routes-folder)
4. open the FMS Data Manager and click on the Majestic line and again on the Update-button (this should bring all files back in the folder
5. look again in this folder and look if you have ONLY these files:  
 ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/6/6d2007f2c15b3d002debac3a2e6571c93ba2c970.png)

The `9909ad0f-...` file is exactly the `nd.db3` file and it looks, that this file (nd.db3) was blocked during the installation (can be happen when you have open the sim during the AIRAC updates).

So, please follow the steps above and all should be good

Cheers,  
Richard

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**Author:** ![Wampster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ce73a5/32.png) [@Wampster](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Wampster)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 8:51am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fms-database-not-updating-in-prepar3d/7757/11 "2022-03-31T08:51:49Z")

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![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/d/d091179424e9db24ae5649f023f80d2772e4be3c.png)

Thank you very much, Richard! I am very pleased. I was confused and frustrated but you worked out my problem for me and fixed it in such a short time from when I asked for help.

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 8:53am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fms-database-not-updating-in-prepar3d/7757/12 "2022-03-31T08:53:48Z")

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Great, you´re welcome … no problem, it´s part of our service … So, whenever you have an issue, a question, please let us know - don´t hesitate to contact us.

Have a nice evening - my day here in Austria starts after this kind words wonderful 🙂

Cheers,  
Richard

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**Post date:** [April 2, 2022, 8:54am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fms-database-not-updating-in-prepar3d/7757/13 "2022-04-02T08:54:00Z")

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