# Fatal Error

**URL:** <https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fatal-error/17191>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [October 11, 2024, 10:02am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fatal-error/17191 "2024-10-11T10:02:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 2\
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**Author:** ![TwentyTwo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/96bed5/32.png) [@TwentyTwo](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/TwentyTwo)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 10:02am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fatal-error/17191/1 "2024-10-11T10:02:55Z")

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This morning I was creating a flight plan thru simbrief which suddenly gave me an error code, which I haven’t had before. Here are my in puts and error code.

 ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/3X/b/6/b6f998a893f8053fc31815c349e5c599c6faa28a.png)  
 ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/3X/7/e/7e0502adc11f2c32deb1b82b52fca9023e3e3fa3.png)

And to show that it is not because I departure and arrive at the same airport here is a screen of a different flight plan I made with same intentions.

 ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/3X/a/e/ae519571b8c0b62475f034c7656962501ae47377.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Rodeo314](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/rodeo314/32/103_2.png) [@Rodeo314](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Rodeo314)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 11:11am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fatal-error/17191/2 "2024-10-11T11:11:46Z")

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Don’t include the runways in your route, they will be added automatically by Simbrief.

(edit: and are triggering the error)

Regards,

Tim