# FALE ILS 24 missaligned **URL:** \ **Category:** General non MSFS data\ **Tags:** airac\ **Created:** [June 11, 2022, 12:58pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fale-ils-24-missaligned/8233 "2022-06-11T12:58:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![nicolaasdb](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/nicolaasdb/32/8402_2.png) [@nicolaasdb](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/nicolaasdb)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 12:58pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fale-ils-24-missaligned/8233/1 "2022-06-11T12:58:57Z")
@NAVData Please add the following corrected data to your datasets. I received this from FSDG after complaining on their forum about the misalignment of RW24. I currently have this data in my user\_nav.dat file in XP11 4 -29.627369971 31.105589685 294 10970 18 87697.800 TGI FALE FA 24 ILS-cat-II 6 -29.601522222 31.129791667 294 10970 18 300217.121 TGI FALE FA 24 GS 12 -29.601516667 31.129800000 294 10970 25 0.000 TGI FALE FA KING SHAKA INTL DME-ILS 4 -29.596163297 31.133428466 290 11130 18 22357.800 TNI FALE FA 06 ILS-cat-II 6 -29.623461111 31.110688889 290 11130 18 300037.121 TNI FALE FA 06 GS 12 -29.623469444 31.110683333 290 11130 25 0.000 TNI FALE FA KING SHAKA INTL DME-ILS ---
**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 2:20pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fale-ils-24-missaligned/8233/2 "2022-06-11T14:20:14Z")
Hi, these coordinates are exactly the same what we use in the MSFS data too … I don´t have found any FSDG FALE scenery for MSFS … Here are the coordinates from MSFS LOC antenna `-29.62738611, 31.10571389` GS antenna `-29.60152222, 31.12979167` DME antenna `-29.60151667, 31.12980000` You see nearly exactly! the same position (there is a rounding of course but that doesn´t make any difference). Both are centerlined to the runway 24 ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/7/7752f8e0125ef07c4142f0a1ea596100795cf51e.jpeg) … and here, because the original posting is quite old - FALE 24 approach stock data with the stock Airbus A320neo, AIRAC 2205 installed: ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/e/e9a49c9e8722db13c04861c7154f8f22269ce501.jpeg) short final: ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/a/af570af97f17a240a37de6cd3f5ba0f097bfd01d.jpeg) ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/1/1c896c340324254caebb16fb9e379a0f2860a995.jpeg) As you see, no misalignment here - the data are correct. By the way all data will be created from one and the same data-source, so it would be strange when a LOC position is differ in one sim as in the other one. In this case, all coordinates are the same (excluding a small rounding): All these data are absolutely correct and will be used in the MSFS as you see in my screenshots, which I have made now with the latest MSFS version. Cheers, Richard ---
**Author:** ![nicolaasdb](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/nicolaasdb/32/8402_2.png) [@nicolaasdb](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/nicolaasdb)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 8:30pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fale-ils-24-missaligned/8233/3 "2022-06-11T20:30:01Z")
Hi Richard, Apologies, I did not realize at the time that the thread was sim specific. The data I gave you earlier was specific for XP11.50+. Without me using the “fix” as shown the FSDG scenery does not work in XP11. RW24 is way off. So what I understand now, is that it is fixed in MSFS2020 but definitely not in XP11 Nico ---
**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 8:39pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fale-ils-24-missaligned/8233/4 "2022-06-11T20:39:33Z")
Hi Nico, no problem, but again as you see in the google maps screenshot, the loc antenna is on the correct position in the XP11 data. I haven’t test it now with the stock XP scenery but I will do this as a reference because I’m pretty sure that this is a 3rd party scenery issue. Possible the runway coordinates are not correct … I don’t have this XP scenery therefore it’s only a assumption. The coordinates in XP11 are correct too, thats for sure and you see this on the google maps screenshot above. Cheers Richard ---
**Author:** ![richardharrisxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@richardharrisxx](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/richardharrisxx)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2022, 1:55pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fale-ils-24-missaligned/8233/5 "2022-06-15T13:55:48Z")
Can confirm ILS24 in msfs is spot on. Just landed the fenix. But atc all over the place - not sure if this is a random event or the result of wu10 Richard ---
**Author:** ![system](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/1X/4cc83e90d70ab312b1bd2d7527bddad309607265.png) [@system](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 1:56pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fale-ils-24-missaligned/8233/6 "2022-06-17T13:56:14Z")
Closed on June 17, 2022, 1:56pm UTC This topic was automatically closed 2 days after the last reply. New replies are no longer allowed. ---
**Author:** ![nicolaasdb](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/nicolaasdb/32/8402_2.png) [@nicolaasdb](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/nicolaasdb)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2022, 9:28pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fale-ils-24-missaligned/8233/7 "2022-07-26T21:28:43Z")
Hi there, I am back as this has still not been resolved yet. I have asked FSDG to submit their missing data to Navigraph, to be added to the AIRAC for X plane 11.50+ will include the link to this post in forum post on their side. I see no point in asking users to put it in to the user\_nav.dat when it can be permanently added to the Navigraph database. If you will be so kind as to assist them to complete this task when they contact you, I will be very grateful and so will every XP user of the scenery. ---
**Author:** ![Ian](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/ian/32/154_2.png) [@Ian](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Ian)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2022, 11:11pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fale-ils-24-missaligned/8233/8 "2022-07-26T23:11:30Z")
Opened on July 26, 2022, 11:11pm UTC ---
**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 6:34am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fale-ils-24-missaligned/8233/9 "2022-07-27T06:34:15Z")
Hi, I´m not sure, what you expect now? The data are correct and when you use it with the stock scenery, you see no offset/missalignment XP11 - AIRAC 2207 installed - default B737: ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/5/54bdded099728a249b3354d9a6e99a1e7efd0d52.jpeg) Absolutely aligned … As I wrote before and as you see in the screenshots before, the localizer coordinates are correct on the real-world position. So, when you use a 3rd party scenery, than something is not 100% correct in the scenery - I´m not a scenery designer, I can only speak for the data and here, I don´t see any issue. Sorry. … by the way, all our datasets are from the same source, so when something is wrong it´s nearly impossible that it´s ok in MSFS but not in XP11 and also in MSFS, no offset - you see the confirmation from @richardharrisxx Cheers, Richard ---
**Author:** ![nicolaasdb](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/nicolaasdb/32/8402_2.png) [@nicolaasdb](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/nicolaasdb)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 8:40am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fale-ils-24-missaligned/8233/10 "2022-07-27T08:40:46Z")
Good morning Richard, I went and tested the information you provided and you are correct! Apologies for the misunderstanding BUT it was driven by FSDG pointing here every time. Thanks for your help, I will take it back to them now again. ---
**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 9:03am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fale-ils-24-missaligned/8233/11 "2022-07-27T09:03:11Z")
> [@nicolaasdb](#): > > Apologies for the misunderstanding BUT it was driven by FSDG pointing here every time. No need to apologies you, we try to help where we can - when FSDG needs any help from us, they should contact us directly via the developer-support ([dev@navigraph.com](mailto:dev@navigraph.com)) Cheers, Richard ---
**Author:** ![nicolaasdb](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/nicolaasdb/32/8402_2.png) [@nicolaasdb](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/nicolaasdb)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 9:13am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/fale-ils-24-missaligned/8233/12 "2022-07-27T09:13:01Z")
Appreciate it, i will relay the message