# EGSS STARs missing from MSFS

**URL:** <https://forum.navigraph.com/t/egss-stars-missing-from-msfs/11297>\
**Category:** SID/STAR/APPR\
**Created:** [February 26, 2023, 12:53pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/egss-stars-missing-from-msfs/11297 "2023-02-26T12:53:26Z")\
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Hi Peter,  
ok, I have checked it now between the MSFS and the real-world information …

The issue is this notams:

```auto
A8097/22 NOTAMN
Q) EGTT/QMRTT/IV/BO /A /000/999/5153N00014E005
A) EGSS B) 2303260000 C) 2304082359
E) TRIGGER NOTAM - AIP SUP 077/22 WEF 26 MAR - 08 JUN 23
RWY 04/22 REDUCED DIST OPERATIONS

```

from the EGSS charts 30-1P2:

 ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/0/07a5950e3f87d6bf128238b417653a20c0a5a292.jpeg)

directly from our database:

 ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/f/fdfaa2a8e10dea1ff9d6b29e8c15b6276f25af6c.png)

Due this notam, ESGG has temporary “two additional” runway idents 04C and 22C … the problem now is, that the sim disable at least all STARs, when any terminal procedure can´t be assigned to a runway, in this case 04C/22C because both runways doesn´t exist in the MSFS.

I have looked into the data and all STARs are available and existing in our data but the sim supress all due this limitation. Sorry - it´s exactly the same issue, when the stock scenery has an outdated runway ident - than the sim suppress also all STARs (at least).

According the notams this “reduced dist operations” ends with 8 of April 2023, so I guess (when ASOBO doesn´t change this logic till this date in any update), you can expect the STARs back with at least the cycle 2305.

Sorry for that - hope that helps,  
Richard

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