# EGFF Approach Identifiers NOT IN DATABASE **URL:** \ **Category:** General MSFS Data\ **Created:** [October 14, 2026, 2:21pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/egff-approach-identifiers-not-in-database/24549 "2026-10-14T14:21:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![trevor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/258eb7/32.png) [@trevor](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/trevor)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2026, 2:21pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/egff-approach-identifiers-not-in-database/24549/1 "2026-10-14T14:21:14Z")
Hi decided to do a flight on my PSS777LRF wich I do keep updated however, on my approach into EGFF I input ICDF for RWY 12 into the fix page and the CDU said NOT IN DATABASE. I then tried ICWA for RWY 30 only to find the same !! Any Ideas please ??? Trve ---
**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2026, 2:24pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/egff-approach-identifiers-not-in-database/24549/2 "2026-10-14T14:24:33Z")
Hi Trevor, What is the PSS 777LRF? Which SIM do you use? Tested in the MSFS2024, stock Boeing 737, AIRAC 2610 rev.2 installed: ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/3X/3/d/3dbcfb8aba428ecc00072b645e509bdb728b01c5.jpeg) ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/3X/c/d/cd9d7fc2f320cc3b149f96efcce5835859e3cc4c.jpeg) Thank you, Richard ---
**Author:** ![trevor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/258eb7/32.png) [@trevor](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/trevor)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2026, 8:22pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/egff-approach-identifiers-not-in-database/24549/3 "2026-10-14T20:22:26Z")
Hi Richard, many thanks for your response. this aircraft is on my old fs9 but I still update it with the data manager on every new AIRAC cycle . ---
**Author:** ![trevor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/258eb7/32.png) [@trevor](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/trevor)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2026, 8:24pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/egff-approach-identifiers-not-in-database/24549/4 "2026-10-14T20:24:15Z")
sorry, meant to add, even on fs9, I don’t have this issue with the iFly737NG ! ---
**Author:** ![trevor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/258eb7/32.png) [@trevor](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/trevor)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2026, 8:43pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/egff-approach-identifiers-not-in-database/24549/5 "2026-10-14T20:43:03Z")
PSS777LRF is the freighter version of Phoenix Simulation B777 model which Navigraph issue nav data updates for. ---
**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2026, 4:03am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/egff-approach-identifiers-not-in-database/24549/6 "2026-10-15T04:03:56Z")
Thanks, Trevor - I have thought so, but I was unsure if someone still uses this 20-year-old SIM 🙂 I haven’t installed FS2004 or PSS, but I will check the data. As you can see in my screenshots, we have both idents in our source. Possibility: I will find a team member who still has FS2004 with PSS installed to test it. Please give me a little bit of time. Thanks for your patience Richard ---
**Author:** ![trevor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/258eb7/32.png) [@trevor](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/trevor)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2026, 6:15am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/egff-approach-identifiers-not-in-database/24549/7 "2026-10-15T06:15:01Z")
Many Thanks Richard. Regards Trev ---
**Author:** ![trevor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/258eb7/32.png) [@trevor](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/trevor)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2026, 6:33am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/egff-approach-identifiers-not-in-database/24549/8 "2026-10-15T06:33:43Z")
Hi Richard, I have checked again and despite the cycle updates it appears no ILS identifiers are in the database Regards Trev ---
**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2026, 6:37am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/egff-approach-identifiers-not-in-database/24549/9 "2026-10-15T06:37:00Z")
Hi Trev, I have tried to analyze this “issue,” and I assume it has existed since day 0 🙂 Because I have looked back at AIRAC 2201, and in no cycle did we have the ILS idents (worldwide). Was this working before? If yes, do you know the approx. the cycle? What I can do is add the idents to check if you can enter them then. I will change the corresponding file and upload it here for you to test, please. Hope that´s ok because I have the FS2004 installed now but I don´t find any backup of the PSS on my system, I´m sorry. Cheers, Richard ---
**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2026, 7:17am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/egff-approach-identifiers-not-in-database/24549/10 "2026-10-15T07:17:19Z")
Hi Trev, I have now added the ILS/DME idents to the PSSVOR file. Please can you replace it manually and test this file to see if it works now? If so, I will add this change to the production system, and you can expect it to be automatically applied with the next AIRAC release. [PSSVOR.dat](https://forum.navigraph.com/uploads/short-url/q2yMjGP7PXRzmz1pxNQDq9JHZTD.dat) (357.9 KB) Thank you, Richard ---
**Author:** ![trevor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/258eb7/32.png) [@trevor](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/trevor)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2026, 7:24am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/egff-approach-identifiers-not-in-database/24549/11 "2026-10-15T07:24:32Z")
Hi Richard, many thanks for your help. I will try the new file and advise. Regards Trev ---
**Author:** ![trevor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/258eb7/32.png) [@trevor](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/trevor)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2026, 8:19am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/egff-approach-identifiers-not-in-database/24549/12 "2026-10-15T08:19:20Z")
Many thanks Richard, I will test when I get home from work and let you know Regards Trev ---
**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2026, 8:50am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/egff-approach-identifiers-not-in-database/24549/13 "2026-10-15T08:50:39Z")
No rush Trev - take your time … Enjoy your day, Richard ---
**Author:** ![trevor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/258eb7/32.png) [@trevor](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/trevor)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2026, 3:29pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/egff-approach-identifiers-not-in-database/24549/14 "2026-10-15T15:29:50Z")
Hi Richard, works perfect !!. I know this particular aircraft is from the dark ages but it was way ahead of its time when it was first introduced. This with FS2004 flies like a dream ! Many thanks for your quick response and solution. KindRegards Trev ---
**Author:** ![NAVData](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/navdata/32/30549_2.png) [@NAVData](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/NAVData)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2026, 3:38pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/egff-approach-identifiers-not-in-database/24549/15 "2026-10-15T15:38:49Z")
Phantastic Trev - thanks for testing! It was also my early days in this data world, and my career started at Navigraph, so I know what you mean. Thanks again. I have now deployed it to the production system, and you can expect this additional data in every cycle from now on. Have a nice evening, Richard ---
**Author:** ![system](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/1X/4cc83e90d70ab312b1bd2d7527bddad309607265.png) [@system](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2026, 3:39pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/egff-approach-identifiers-not-in-database/24549/16 "2026-10-17T15:39:28Z")
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