# Charts missing at KASE (Aspen-Pitkin Co)?

**URL:** <https://forum.navigraph.com/t/charts-missing-at-kase-aspen-pitkin-co/13110>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [August 25, 2023, 9:09pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/charts-missing-at-kase-aspen-pitkin-co/13110 "2023-08-25T21:09:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![roughapproach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@roughapproach](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/roughapproach)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 9:09pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/charts-missing-at-kase-aspen-pitkin-co/13110/1 "2023-08-25T21:09:37Z")

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G’day, there are 4 IFR approach proceedures listed for KASE but charts for only 2 of them. Any idea why they are missing? I’m on AIRAC 2308 rev.1 which I believe is the latest cycle.

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**Author:** ![skysail](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/skysail/32/304_2.png) [@skysail](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/skysail)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 1:40pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/charts-missing-at-kase-aspen-pitkin-co/13110/2 "2023-08-26T13:40:27Z")

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Hi James! Thanks for posting.

You are not the first to be confused about this! Basically, we only have charts for the public procedures, of which there are two. The rest are special and not included in our source data! Sorry for any inconvenience this might cause. You can find more details here:

> [@KASE approach clarication](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/kase-approach-clarication/4092/2):
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> Aspen actually has at least 5 approaches: LOC DME-E RNAV(GPS)-F LOC/DME 15 RNAV (GPS) Z RWY 15 RNAV (RNP) Y RWY 15 The first 2 are the only public approaches, and that appears to be what Navigraph charts is showing. Since the other 3 require specific approval, they won’t typically be in the real life nav database and chart subscriptions - unless you are an approved operator (such as NetJets, etc). That’s because they have waivers for obstacle clearance requirements, etc. There is also a char…

Kind Regards,  
Malte

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**Author:** ![roughapproach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@roughapproach](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/roughapproach)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 1:55pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/charts-missing-at-kase-aspen-pitkin-co/13110/3 "2023-08-26T13:55:54Z")

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Oops! I apologise for not looking deeper into the forums before inquiring. Interesting to know. Thanks for getting back to me.

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**Author:** ![skysail](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/skysail/32/304_2.png) [@skysail](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/skysail)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 10:58am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/charts-missing-at-kase-aspen-pitkin-co/13110/4 "2023-08-28T10:58:20Z")

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No worries! You’re welcome.

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**Author:** ![skysail](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/skysail/32/304_2.png) [@skysail](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/skysail)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 10:58am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/charts-missing-at-kase-aspen-pitkin-co/13110/5 "2023-08-28T10:58:25Z")

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