# Cannot minimize Charts app **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [January 22, 2021, 11:32pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/cannot-minimize-charts-app/3995 "2021-01-22T23:32:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bingo041](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Bingo041](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Bingo041)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 11:32pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/cannot-minimize-charts-app/3995/1 "2021-01-22T23:32:24Z")
I am not able to minimize the charts program as there is no “-” to click on. I have to Control-Alt-Delete to get back to desktop? Bill Clark ---
**Author:** ![Ian](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/ian/32/154_2.png) [@Ian](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Ian)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 8:33am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/cannot-minimize-charts-app/3995/2 "2021-01-23T08:33:11Z")
Hi Bill, Welcome. Pressing Alt-F4 should close the program and restart the program should restore the Window Maximise/Minimise ? Cheers Ian ---
**Author:** ![Bingo041](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Bingo041](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Bingo041)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/cannot-minimize-charts-app/3995/3 "2021-01-23T17:08:36Z")
Thanks Ian for your quick response. Alt-F4 shuts down the app, however, when I restart Charts, the problem is still there? Bil Clark ---
**Author:** ![Ian](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/ian/32/154_2.png) [@Ian](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Ian)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 8:24pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/cannot-minimize-charts-app/3995/4 "2021-01-23T20:24:19Z")
Hi Bill, Assuming not needing past backups, 1. Use Windows to uninstall Charts. Specifically see [FAQ - Charts desktop installer fails immediately](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/faq-charts-desktop-installer-fails-immediately/134) 2. If they exist delete folders: c:\Users\usernamei\AppData\Roaming\Navigraph\Charts and c:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Programs\Navigraph Charts 3. Download and install latest [Charts](https://navigraph.com/products/charts) . Any improvement? Cheers Ian ---
**Author:** ![skysail](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/skysail/32/304_2.png) [@skysail](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/skysail)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 9:54pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/cannot-minimize-charts-app/3995/5 "2021-01-23T21:54:33Z")
In case the above does not work and/or you want to know what’s causing this issue, please see this post: [Unable to resize/move Charts program - #2 by skysail](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/unable-to-resize-move-charts-program/1007/2) This is a known issue, but it is very hard to reproduce. Do you have any recollection of how you managed to put the app into fullscreen mode? Your feedback/input would be much appreciated by the developers! Regards, Malte ---
**Author:** ![Bingo041](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Bingo041](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Bingo041)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 11:57pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/cannot-minimize-charts-app/3995/6 "2021-01-23T23:57:50Z")
After uninstalling, downloading and installing the latest version it now seems to work correctly. This problem, occurred after starting up an older version, before I updated. After install of newer version, the program was ready run if I selected run after completing installation. I launched the program, pulled up a chart, and then maximized by going full screen. When I minimized chart, the minimize feature was not available. Best as I remember, Thanks, Bill Clark ---
**Author:** ![skysail](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/skysail/32/304_2.png) [@skysail](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/skysail)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 11:14am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/cannot-minimize-charts-app/3995/7 "2021-01-24T11:14:12Z")
Thank you for the detailed description! It is much appreciated 🙂 Happy to see that the issue is resolved as well, we’ll try to fix this as soon as possible! Regards, Malte ---
**Author:** ![skysail](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/skysail/32/304_2.png) [@skysail](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/skysail)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 8:49am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/cannot-minimize-charts-app/3995/8 "2021-01-25T08:49:32Z")
Just to confirm: Did you try to use the button highlighted here to exit fullscreen mode? ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/2X/b/bb59cdf583fe0855f564d421f3fed4871fa1b044.png) Regards, Malte ---
**Author:** ![Bingo041](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Bingo041](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Bingo041)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 7:45pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/cannot-minimize-charts-app/3995/9 "2021-01-25T19:45:10Z")
Malte, yes I pretty much hit all the buttons in my attempts. ---
**Author:** ![skysail](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/skysail/32/304_2.png) [@skysail](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/skysail)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 8:15pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/cannot-minimize-charts-app/3995/10 "2021-01-25T20:15:01Z")
Got it. Thanks for your feedback and time, we’ll try to find the cause of the issue! Regards, Malte ---
**Author:** ![system](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/navigraph1/original/1X/4cc83e90d70ab312b1bd2d7527bddad309607265.png) [@system](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 8:15pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/cannot-minimize-charts-app/3995/11 "2021-01-30T20:15:12Z")
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