# Brief Freeze Every Second with Panel Not Minimized **URL:** \ **Category:** Charts In-Game Panel Beta Testing\ **Created:** [December 31, 2022, 7:09am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/brief-freeze-every-second-with-panel-not-minimized/10646 "2022-12-31T07:09:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![LaneTOGA](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/lanetoga/32/388_2.png) [@LaneTOGA](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/LaneTOGA)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2022, 7:09am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/brief-freeze-every-second-with-panel-not-minimized/10646/1 "2022-12-31T07:09:20Z")
## What I expected to happen. No or little impact on game performance with beta 8 panel open or closed. ​ ## What actually happened 1. With beta 8 panel open and minimized, no impact on performance noted. 2. With beta 8 panel open and visible, there is a brief video/game freeze every second. ---
**Author:** ![stephen](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/stephen/32/10435_2.png) [@stephen](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/stephen)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2022, 7:13am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/brief-freeze-every-second-with-panel-not-minimized/10646/2 "2022-12-31T07:13:37Z")
Hi, Could you please compare it with the old, non-beta panel? The one you install from Navdata Center. Is the same freeze every second there (when you have moving maps enabled)? Regards, Stephen ---
**Author:** ![LaneTOGA](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/lanetoga/32/388_2.png) [@LaneTOGA](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/LaneTOGA)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2022, 7:17am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/brief-freeze-every-second-with-panel-not-minimized/10646/3 "2022-12-31T07:17:05Z")
Hi Stephen Will check later during the day and give feedback (in a longer flight now, don’t want to exit). I didn’t use the panel much previously, cannot remember seeing this the times that I did. This beta version is such a great improvement, I will be using the panel “all the time”. BRGDS, Lane ---
**Author:** ![LaneTOGA](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/lanetoga/32/388_2.png) [@LaneTOGA](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/LaneTOGA)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2022, 7:22am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/brief-freeze-every-second-with-panel-not-minimized/10646/4 "2022-12-31T07:22:56Z")
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**Author:** ![LaneTOGA](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/lanetoga/32/388_2.png) [@LaneTOGA](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/LaneTOGA)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2022, 3:47pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/brief-freeze-every-second-with-panel-not-minimized/10646/5 "2022-12-31T15:47:40Z")
Hi Stephen With both legacy and beta charts panels installed: 1. Simlink not running - neither legacy or beta freeze 2. Simlink running - legacy OK, but beta has freeze on very regular cycle approximately once per second Hope this helps, let me know any other information needed. BRGDS, Lane ---
**Author:** ![stephen](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/stephen/32/10435_2.png) [@stephen](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/stephen)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2022, 6:53pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/brief-freeze-every-second-with-panel-not-minimized/10646/6 "2022-12-31T18:53:05Z")
Please also verify that Moving Maps is enabled in both the old and new panel (magenta symbol showing your plane) and also follow mode (when the map moves along and keeps the aircraft in the center). Then compare the two. Thanks! Stephen ---
**Author:** ![steveellis100](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/steveellis100/32/8868_2.png) [@steveellis100](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/steveellis100)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2022, 9:54pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/brief-freeze-every-second-with-panel-not-minimized/10646/7 "2022-12-31T21:54:13Z")
I also have this lag with VR wih the new beta panel, same occurences as OP ---
**Author:** ![LaneTOGA](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/lanetoga/32/388_2.png) [@LaneTOGA](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/LaneTOGA)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2023, 12:05pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/brief-freeze-every-second-with-panel-not-minimized/10646/8 "2023-01-01T12:05:20Z")
Hi Stephen, Yes, aircraft icon magenta, following and moving map ON. BRGDS, Lane ---
**Author:** ![LaneTOGA](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/lanetoga/32/388_2.png) [@LaneTOGA](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/LaneTOGA)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2023, 12:15pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/brief-freeze-every-second-with-panel-not-minimized/10646/9 "2023-01-01T12:15:29Z")
Here is a screen video capture, as you can see: 1. the freeze coincides with the position update refresh rate in the beta panel 2. the freeze does not occur with the legacy panel. > **[Navigraph Beta Panel.mp4](https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=89A094A189F9326B%211754219&authkey=%21ABR5_uERQeiiJ7c&ithint=video%2cmp4&e=gJYbtG)** > > MP4 File ---
**Author:** ![LaneTOGA](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/lanetoga/32/388_2.png) [@LaneTOGA](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/LaneTOGA)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2023, 12:29pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/brief-freeze-every-second-with-panel-not-minimized/10646/10 "2023-01-01T12:29:02Z")
FYI, I tried this with A32NX, same symptoms. ---
**Author:** ![Jim610](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/jim610/32/11271_2.png) [@Jim610](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/Jim610)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2023, 2:20pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/brief-freeze-every-second-with-panel-not-minimized/10646/11 "2023-01-01T14:20:40Z")
I’ve used the beta in Fenix A320 and Aerosoft CRJ. I fly in VR. The one second micro stutter is very nauseating in VR. Unless there are any requests to test a particular scenario I will refrain from using the beta until I see info to indicate this stuttering is fixed. Shame as the functionallity is a great improvement over the legacy panel. ---
**Author:** ![mmcqueen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@mmcqueen](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/mmcqueen)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2023, 10:05pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/brief-freeze-every-second-with-panel-not-minimized/10646/12 "2023-01-02T22:05:58Z")
Hello, I also fly exclusively in VR, lately with the Aerosoft CRJ. I am also experiencing the same every 3 second intermittent 1 second duration freeze described above. I noticed that the freeze goes away when I deactivate the magenta location tracking arrow on the maps/charts. In case it’s a CPU limiting issue, I have an intel 6700k for your information. Thank you!! ---
**Author:** ![skysail](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/skysail/32/304_2.png) [@skysail](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/skysail)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2023, 2:35pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/brief-freeze-every-second-with-panel-not-minimized/10646/13 "2023-01-03T14:35:27Z")
Thanks a lot for the recording! I think we can safely say that the moving maps function is causing the stutters. We will investigate the issue and look for any opportunities to optimize the feature! Thank you for your patience. Kind Regards, Malte ---
**Author:** ![steveellis100](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/steveellis100/32/8868_2.png) [@steveellis100](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/steveellis100)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 7:55am UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/brief-freeze-every-second-with-panel-not-minimized/10646/14 "2023-01-04T07:55:31Z")
Hi there, have you already done anything about the problem. The reason I am asking is that I have done 2 flights, one yesterday and one today and the stuttering has stopped all of a sudden. I am happy to report that from my situation is that it seems to be stutter free Steve ---
**Author:** ![skysail](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/skysail/32/304_2.png) [@skysail](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/skysail)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 3:18pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/brief-freeze-every-second-with-panel-not-minimized/10646/15 "2023-01-04T15:18:07Z")
I’m happy to hear it @steveellis100 ! We _have_ made several optimizations, but they have not been directly related to the moving-maps feature itself yet. That said, they should still have improved performance at least slightly! ---
**Author:** ![taintedblu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@taintedblu](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/taintedblu)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 8:52pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/brief-freeze-every-second-with-panel-not-minimized/10646/16 "2023-01-06T20:52:58Z")
Hi everyone, Just wanted to throw my experience onto the heap. I’ve been having this issue - 1Hz (microstutters?) due to moving maps. Basic points: - doesn’t happen with moving maps on old Navigraph in-game panel - only occurs with some aircraft (noticed on non-beta AAU1 PMDG 737, and on beta AAU1 Citation Longitude so far) - not occurring with others (Analog King Air and Just Flight 414 both work fine) - goes away when panel is minimized/closed - also goes away when moving-maps are turned off - high end machine with 64g ram and a 5900x I think it’s possible that the reason that others have noticed the stuttering stop is that they were likely on different aircraft types - just a hunch. Anyway, for me, this is very much still an issue! Thank you SO much for facilitating this beta process, so cool to be reporting bugs and helping y’all make this amazing piece of software run as smoothly as possible prior to release. Dan ---
**Author:** ![BloodMonarch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aca169/32.png) [@BloodMonarch](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/BloodMonarch)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 8:31pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/brief-freeze-every-second-with-panel-not-minimized/10646/17 "2023-01-10T20:31:32Z")
I am having this issue as well, with the new charts open I get the frame hitching every second, when I close the new charts it runs smoothly. The old charts run fine with no hitching. ---
**Author:** ![skysail](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/skysail/32/304_2.png) [@skysail](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/skysail)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 4:07pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/brief-freeze-every-second-with-panel-not-minimized/10646/18 "2023-01-12T16:07:25Z")
Hello everyone! An update was released today that should bring a noticeable improvement to this issue. Please try it out and let us know about your results! Kind Regards, Malte ---
**Author:** ![WebMaximus](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/webmaximus/32/10549_2.png) [@WebMaximus](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/WebMaximus)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 6:20pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/brief-freeze-every-second-with-panel-not-minimized/10646/19 "2023-01-12T18:20:23Z")
Just took off from LICJ and not a single stutter when having the airport diagram open all the time during taxi. Amazing job guys!! ---
**Author:** ![skysail](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.navigraph.com/skysail/32/304_2.png) [@skysail](https://forum.navigraph.com/u/skysail)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 7:00pm UTC](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/brief-freeze-every-second-with-panel-not-minimized/10646/20 "2023-01-12T19:00:10Z")
> [@WebMaximus](#): > > Just took off from LICJ and not a single stutter when having the airport diagram open all the time during taxi. Happy to hear it! Please try it with the enroute map as well, as I think you only tried it with a chart open? [Next page](https://forum.navigraph.com/t/brief-freeze-every-second-with-panel-not-minimized/10646.md?page=2)